The official Mayweather vs. Pacquiao aftermath trash receptacle

Yes, and as I pursue the tangible aspects of the sport, you can continue to be the most dedicated to a boxing forum with your 140,000 posts. A glorious achievement in life. Keep striving, sir. :good

 

Lol...

 

The posts in this thread have largely been great to read. Props to all of you guys for your insightful input.

Yes, fights are scored in real-time.

I don't think you can blame people for thinking the fight was closer, nor can you blame them for thinking Manny won because they were probably able to pick up on certain shots landing/missing that the next person didn't notice properly - real-time scoring of this glorified sparring session is a true eye-test.

What if you saw upon closer observation that Mayweather scored a number of punches that you didn't otherwise think he did in any given round? Maybe that might change the dynamic of the round for you. Because other than the punches landed, there was nothing else really to separate the two because there was very little action.

A decent poster Drew101 outlines his summary on the scoring criteria in the particular match which I don't agree with:
'Four criteria for scoring the fight:

* Clean, effective punching (and any "tap" that forces a reset would be considered effective).
* Ring generalship (Mayweather dictated the tempo of the round throughout the first two minutes)
* Defence (Both guys defended well at points, but Mayweather did a better job of defending throughout the round)
* Effective aggression (Push. Mayweather went forward early, and Pac went forward late. )'

No taps had forced a reset in this fight.
Ring generalship cannot be measured by the number of minutes.
I do think people forget that effective aggression is multifaceted in practice. You don't win points on defense if you literally run in order to reset. This if anything will mean you have been overreactive to aggression (you make it 'effective'). There's a definite ying and yang effect here that cannot be overlooked.

In a match like this perculiar one with all other scoring factors turning out to have only a small influence, landed punches makes all of the difference. That is why there has been a media backlash to the bias commentary, the compubox statistics, the bias Floyd fans that claim it was a 'schooling'.

Shane Mosley has said continuously that this fight could have been scored a draw. I think he's seen nuances that we're only just starting to catch onto.

Say what you will but this fight has confirmed for me that Pacquiao is well into the Top 20 of all time in terms of overall greatness (despite not being in my Top 20 for the 'best' fighters based on ability - Mayweather is in my Top 20 for ability).

P.S I didn't know you were a massive Floyd lover, IB.

 

1. Actually a fight with 230 landed punches would seem to emphasize "all other scoring factors," if anything. But OK. 148 >>>> 81.

2. "Media backlash?" The only backlash was from the bad guy winning and the good guy almost getting doubled up in punch count.

3. Only bias commentary and scoring were the pro-HBO HBO-employees backing their network.

4. You think Mosley has "seen nuances that we're only just starting to catch onto."

OHMAGAWD YES! The mighty Shane Mosley has set us all straight. Millions and millions of people will see a completely different fight when they watch this again! No, dude. Many of us know boxing. We all saw a decisive victory.

5. Losing 9 rounds to Mayweather finally made you confirm your thoughts of Pacquiao's greatness? You're a little late to the party.

6. P.S. Dedicated and crazed fanboys like you can turn any man off of anything.

 

Your post was just a completely moronic moan. I already said that the two times I watched it real-time before slow motion and further ****ysis, I had scored it 8-4/9-3 (Mayweather).

I've never been known to be a huge Pacquiao fan. I just thought that this fight between two Top 50 ATG's left a lot grey areas which needed to be uncovered to be able to put it to rest.

It's funny you talk about 'turning off' as the world has been turned off boxing somewhat after that horrendous showing by both fighters (more so by Mayweather).

 

More so by the guy who landed 148 punches as opposed to the guy who landed 81 punches??? More so by the guy who threw more punches???

Cool story you've made up there.

 

The SLOW MOTION STATS - THE TRUTH
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-replay-tells-another-story/


Round 1 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-54

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 12.5%



Manny

Punches Thrown-27

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage .08%



Round 2 Winner Sway Round (Due to equal punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-43

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 26%



Manny

Punches Thrown-32

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 39%



Round 3 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-25

Punches Landed- 3

Hit Percentage 13%



Manny

Punches Thrown-33

Punches Landed- 8

Hit Percentage 32%



Round 4 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-25

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 25%



Manny

Punches Thrown-48

Punches Landed- 20

Hit Percentage 71%



Round 5 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-44

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 12%



Manny

Punches Thrown-22

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage 10%



Round 6 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-34

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 21%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 11

Hit Percentage 27%



Round 7 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-45

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage .04%



Manny

Punches Thrown-29

Punches Landed- 7

Hit Percentage 31%



Round 8 Winner Floyd or Sway Round (Due to very close punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 17%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 14%



Round 9 Winner Floyd or Sway Round (Due to very close punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-31

Punches Landed- 10

Hit Percentage 47%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 11

Hit Percentage 37%



Round 10 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-38

Punches Landed- 3

Hit Percentage .08%



Manny

Punches Thrown-38

Punches Landed- 10

Hit Percentage 35%



Round 11 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-52

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 20%



Manny

Punches Thrown-32

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 23%



Round 12 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 4

Hit Percentage 11%



Manny

Punches Thrown-33

Punches Landed- 7

Hit Percentage 25%



Final

Floyd

Total Punches Thrown 471

Total Punches Landed 68

PCT%- 14.5

Rounds Won- 1, 5, 8, 9, and 11



Manny

Total Punches Thrown 414

Total Punches Landed 98

PCT%- 23.4

Rounds Won 3, 4, 6, 7, 10 and 12



Sway Round- Round #2



Final (Plausible scores with sway rounds)

114-114 Draw (Gave all sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

117-113 Manny (Gave 2 of 3 sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

116-112 Manny (Gave 1 of 3 sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

118-112 Manny (Gave all sway rounds in favor of Manny)



Scoring solely on Punches Landed with the highest accuracy connect percentage for each round

118-112 Manny

Scoring solely on the total output of Punches thrown for each round

118-112 Floyd

 

118-112? Where did you get the extra 2 points in your score? Were you giving Manny 11 point rounds? It's bad enough to be a terrible enough scorer to give this fight to Manny. But at least learn how many points you get for winning a round. atsch

 

wasn't my score, was from http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-replay-tells-another-story/

i edited my post to show link

 

I'm going to set up cameras on myself for the next big fight.

I will then go back and watch my round by round scoring in slow motion, round by round.

 

This is a very in depth post fight ****ysis, with scores and stats after reviewing the fight carefully. A lot of effort was apparently put into this so give it it's proper level of respect and attention. Discuss

*this deserves it's own thread.

The SLOW MOTION STATS.
http://www.boxingnews24.com/2015/05/mayweather-vs-pacquiao-replay-tells-another-story/


Round 1 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-54

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 12.5%



Manny

Punches Thrown-27

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage .08%



Round 2 Winner Sway Round (Due to equal punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-43

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 26%



Manny

Punches Thrown-32

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 39%



Round 3 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-25

Punches Landed- 3

Hit Percentage 13%



Manny

Punches Thrown-33

Punches Landed- 8

Hit Percentage 32%



Round 4 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-25

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 25%



Manny

Punches Thrown-48

Punches Landed- 20

Hit Percentage 71%



Round 5 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-44

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 12%



Manny

Punches Thrown-22

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage 10%



Round 6 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-34

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 21%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 11

Hit Percentage 27%



Round 7 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-45

Punches Landed- 2

Hit Percentage .04%



Manny

Punches Thrown-29

Punches Landed- 7

Hit Percentage 31%



Round 8 Winner Floyd or Sway Round (Due to very close punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 17%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 5

Hit Percentage 14%



Round 9 Winner Floyd or Sway Round (Due to very close punches landed)

Floyd

Punches Thrown-31

Punches Landed- 10

Hit Percentage 47%



Manny

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 11

Hit Percentage 37%



Round 10 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-38

Punches Landed- 3

Hit Percentage .08%



Manny

Punches Thrown-38

Punches Landed- 10

Hit Percentage 35%



Round 11 Winner Floyd

Floyd

Punches Thrown-52

Punches Landed- 9

Hit Percentage 20%



Manny

Punches Thrown-32

Punches Landed- 6

Hit Percentage 23%



Round 12 Winner Manny

Floyd

Punches Thrown-40

Punches Landed- 4

Hit Percentage 11%



Manny

Punches Thrown-33

Punches Landed- 7

Hit Percentage 25%



Final

Floyd

Total Punches Thrown 471

Total Punches Landed 68

PCT%- 14.5

Rounds Won- 1, 5, 8, 9, and 11



Manny

Total Punches Thrown 414

Total Punches Landed 98

PCT%- 23.4

Rounds Won 3, 4, 6, 7, 10 and 12



Sway Round- Round #2



Final (Plausible scores with sway rounds)

114-114 Draw (Gave all sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

117-113 Manny (Gave 2 of 3 sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

116-112 Manny (Gave 1 of 3 sway rounds in favor of Floyd)

118-112 Manny (Gave all sway rounds in favor of Manny)



Scoring solely on Punches Landed with the highest accuracy connect percentage for each round

118-112 Manny

Scoring solely on the total output of Punches thrown for each round

118-112 Floyd

 

Wow.

Most of them just started preemptive damage control the day the fight was signed but this guy has been ahead of the pack!

Looking forward to complete-prime-Mike Perez to do battle with utterly-beyond-wasted-shot-why-doesn't-he-just-retire-Alexander Povetkin.