***the official mexico vs puerto rico thread***

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  1. IsaL

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    Erik Morales = Shot

    Danny Garcia = Young and strong

    The only way Ricans can beat Mexicans nowadays is by having them fight shot to **** Mexicans... And then they have a huge as parade like it meant something. :lol:
     
  2. Capitan

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    Then lets do an avatar bet on the Mayweather Cotto fight.
    Mayweather is Mexican!!!
     
  3. IsaL

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    I'm game... Loser sports a flag of the other country.
     
  4. Ring Master

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    Morales and Rafa Marquez are the only 2 Mexicans I don't wish to see lose. I actually wish they would retire.
     
  5. Ruderic

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    The 2000’s: Puerto Rican Boxers vs. Mexican & Mexican American boxers.

    1.Eric Morel defeats Gilberto Keb Bass by UD 12: WBA World Flyweight title 2000.
    2. Eric Morel defeats Alberto Ontiveros by UD 12: WBA World Flyweight title 2000.
    3. Felix “ Tito” Trinidad defeats Fernando Vargas by TKO 12: WBA World Light Middleweight title 2000.
    4. Daniel Santos defeats Luis Ramos Campas by TKO 11: WBO Light Middleweight title 2002.
    5. Eric Morel defeats Isidro Garcia by UD 12: WBA World Flyweight title 2003.
    6. Ivan “Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Lorenzo Trejo by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 2003.
    7. Daniel Santos defeats *** Antonio Margarito by TD 10: WBO Light Middleweight title 2004.
    8. Nelson Dieppa defeats Ulises Solis by MD 12: WBO Light Flyweight title 2004.
    9. Ivan “Iron Boy” Calderon defeats Roberto Carlos Leyva by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 2004.
    10. Daniel Santos defeats Michael Lerma by UD 12: WBO Light Middleweight title 2004.
    11. Ivan “Iron Boy” Calderon defeats Gerardo Verde by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 2005.
    12. Kermit Cintron defeats Mark Suarez by TKO 5: IBF Welterweight title 2006.
    13. Ivan “Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Isaac Bustos by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 2006.
    14. Ivan “Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Hugo Fidel Cazares by SD 12: WBO Flyweight title 2007.
    15. Ivan “Iron Boy" Calderon defeats Juan Esguer by UD 12: WBO Flyweight title 2007.
    16. Kermit Cintron defeats Jesse Feliciano by TKO 10: IBF Welterweight title 2007.
    17. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Daniel Ponce De Leon by TKO 1: WBO Super Bantamweight title 2008.
    18. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Cesar Figueroa by KO 1: WBO Super Bantamweight title 2008.
    19. Miguel Angel Cotto defeats Alfonso Gomez by RTD 5: WBA World Welterweight title 2008.
    20. Ivan "Iron Boy” Calderon defeats Hugo Fidel Cazares by TD 7: WBO Flyweight title 2008.
    21. Wilfredo Vasquez jr. defeats Ivan Hernandez by TKO 11: WBO Super Bantamweight title 2010.
    22. Ivan “Iron Boy” Calderon defeats Jesus Iribe by UD 12: WBO Light Flyweight title 2010.
    24. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Rafael Marquez by RTD 8: WBO Featherweight title 2010.
    25. Juan Manuel Lopez defeats Steven Luevano by TKO 7: WBO Featherweight title 2010.



    The 2000’s: Mexican & Mexican American boxers vs. Puerto Rican boxers.


    1. Jose Victor Burgos defeats Alex Sanchez by TKO 12: IBF Light Flyweight title 2003.
    2. *** Antonio Margarito defeats Kermit Cintron by TKO 5: WBO Welterweight 2005.
    3. Hugo Fidel Cazares defeats Nelson Dieppa by TD 10: WBO Light Flyweight title 2005.
    4. Martin Castillo defeats Eric Morel by UD 12: WBA World Super Flyweight title 2005.
    5. Hugo Fidel Cazares defeats Alex Sanchez RTD 8: WBO Light Flyweight title 2005.
    6. Hugo Fidel Cazares defeats Nelson Dieppa by TKO 10: WBO Light Flyweight title 2006.
    7. Juan Diaz defeats Jose Miguel Cotto by UD 12: WBA World Lightweight title 2006.
    8. *** Antonio Margarito defeats Miguel Angel Cotto by TKO 11: WBA Welterweight title 2008.
    9. *** Antonio Margarito defeats Kermit Cintron by KO 6: IBF Welterweight title 2008.
    10. Giovanni Segura defeats Ivan Calderon by KO 8: WBO Flyweight title / WBA Super World Flyweight title 2010.


    The 2000 - 2010: Puerto Rico 25-10 (10 KO’s) - Mexico & Mexican American 10-25 (7 KO’s).
     
  6. Ruderic

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    1970’s: Puerto Rico vs. Mexico and Mexican American boxers.

    1. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Raul Tirado TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1977.
    2. Esteban De Jesus defeats Vicente Mijares Saldivar by TKO 11: WBC Lightweight title 1977.
    3. Alfredo Escalera defeats Carlos Becerril by KO 8: WBC Super Featherweight title 1977.
    4. Alfredo Escalera defeats Sigfredo Rodriguez by UD 15: WBC Super Featherweight 1977.
    5. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Zarate TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    6. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Antonio Lopez TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    7. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Nicky Perez TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.
    8. Wilfredo “El Radar" Benitez defeats Carlos Palomino by SD 15: WBC Welterweight title 1979.
    9. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Mendoza TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.

    1970’s: Mexican & Mexican American boxers vs. Puerto Rican boxers.

    1. Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 10: WBA World Welterweight title 1979.
    2. Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 12: WBA World Welterweight title 1977.
    3. Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 2: WBA World Welterweight title 1976.
     
  7. Ruderic

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    In the 1980’s: Puerto Rico 11-8 (8 KO’s) - Mexican & Mexican American 8-11 (4 KO’s).

    1980's Puerto Rican Boxers vs. Mexican American & Mexican boxers:

    1. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Ruben Valdez by TKO 6: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1980.
    2. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Lupe Pintor by TKO 14: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    3. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Roberto Rubaldino TKO 8: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    4. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Antonio Lopez TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    5. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Meza TKO 6: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    6. Juan LaPorte defeats Ruben Castillo: WBC Featherweight title 1983.
    7. Hector L. "Macho” Camacho defeats Rafael “Bazooka” Limon by a TKO 5: WBC Super Featherweight title 1983.
    8. Edwin "Chapo" Rosario defeats Jose Luis Ramirez by UD 12: WBA Lightweight title 1983.
    9. Edwin “Chapo” Rosario defeats Robert Elizondo by TKO 1: WBC Lightweight title 1984.
    10. Hector L. "Macho” Camacho defeats Jose Luis Ramirez by a 12 UD: WBC Lightweight title 1985.
    11. John J.Molina defeats Tony Lopez by TKO 10: IBF Super Featherweight title 1989.

    Mexican & Mexican American boxers vs. Puerto Rican boxers:

    1. Salvador Sanchez defeats Juan LaPorte: WBC Featherweight title 1980.
    2. Salvador Sanchez defeats Wilfredo Gomez TKO 8: WBC Featherweight title 1981.
    3. Jose Luis Ramirez defeats Edwin “Chapo” Rosario by TKO 4: WBA Lightweight title 1984.
    4. Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Juan LaPorte: WBC Super Featherweight title 1986.
    5. Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Edwin "Chapo" Rosario by TKO 11: WBA Lightweight title 1987.
    6. Tony Lopez defeats John J. Molina by 12 UD: IBF Super Featherweight 1988.
    7. Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Sammy Fuentes by RTD 10: WBC Lightweight title 1989.
    8. Gilberto Roman defeats Juan Carazo UD 12: WBC Super Flyweight title 1989.
     
  8. Ruderic

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    The 1990’s: Puerto Rican boxers vs. Mexican & Mexican American boxers.


    1. Jose Ruiz defeats Armando Velasco UD 12: WBO Super Flyweight title 1990.
    2. John J.Molina defeats Lupe Suarez by TKO 6: IBF Super Featherweight title 1990.
    3. Hector “Macho” Camacho defeats Tony Baltazar by UD 12: WBO Light Welterweight title 1990.
    4. Edwin "Chapo" Rosario defeats Loreto Garza by TKO 3: WBA world lightweight title 1991.
    5. Wilfredo Vasquez defeats Raul Perez by TKO 3: WBA Super Bantamweight title 1992.
    6. Josue Camacho defeats Eddie Vallejo by KO 6: WBO Light Flyweight title 1992.
    7. John J.Molina defeats Fransico Segura by TKO 8: IBF Super Featherweight title 1993.
    8. John J. Molina defeats Manuel Medina by UD 12: IBF Super Featherweight title 1993.
    9. John J. Molina defeats Gregorio Vargas by 12 UD: IBF Super Featherweight title 1994.
    10. Alex “Nene” Sanchez defeats Oscar Andrade by TKO 4: WBO Minimumweight title 1994.
    11. Alex “Nene” Sanchez defeats Arturo Mayan by TKO 1: WBO Minimumweight title 1994.
    12. Felix "Tito" Trinidad defeats Luis Ramos Campas by TKO 4: IBF Welterweight title 1994.
    13. Alex “Nene” Sanchez defeats Tomas Rivera by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 1995.
    14. Alex “Nene” Sanchez defeats Rafael Orozco by TKO 4: WBO Minimumweight title 1995.

    15. Sammy Fuentes defeats Fidel Avendano by TKO 2: WBO Light Welterweight title 1995.
    16. Sammy Fuentes defeats Hector Lopez by SD 12: WBO Lightweight title 1995.
    17. Wilfredo Vasquez defeats Orlando Canizales by SD 15: Super Bantamweight title 1995.
    18. Felix “Tito” Trinidad defeats Ray Lovato by TKO 6: IBF Welterweight title 1996.
    19. Alex “Nene” Sanchez defeats Jose Victor Burgos by UD 12: WBO Minimumweight title 1997.
    20. Felix “Tito” Trinidad defeats Oscar De La Hoya by MD: WBC / IBF Welterweight title 1999.

    The 1990’s: Mexican American & Mexican boxers vs. Puerto Rican boxers.


    1. Tony Lopez defeats John J. Molina by 12 SD: IBF Super Featherweight 1990
    2. Jesse Benavidez defeats Orlando Fernandez by UD 12: WBO Super Bantamweight 1991.
    3. Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Hector L. “Macho” Camacho by 12 UD: WBC Welterweight title 1992.
    4. Robert Qiroga defeats Jose Ruiz by MD 12: IBF Super Flyweight title 1992.
    5. Jose Quirino defeats Jose Ruiz by UD 12: WBO Flyweight title 1992.
    6. Zack Padilla defeats Juan LaPorte: WBO Light Welterweight title 1994
    7. Michael Carbajal defeats Josue Camacho by UD 12: WBO Flyweight title 1994.
    8. Marco Antonio Barrera defeats Daniel Jimenez by UD 12: WBO Super Bantamweight title 1995.
    9. Oscar De La Hoya defeats John J. Molina by 12 UD: WBO Lightweight 1995.
    10. Marco Antonio Barrera defeats Orlando Fernandez by TKO 7: WBO Super Bantamweight title 1996.
    11. Oscar De La Hoya defeats Hector L." Macho " Camacho by 12 UD: WBC Welterweight title 1997
    12. Oscar De La Hoya defeats Wilfredo Rivera by TKO 8: WBC Welterweight title 1997.
    13. Ricardo Lopez defeats Alex Sanchez by TKO 5: WBC/WBO Minimumweight title 1997.
    14. Enrique Sanchez defeats Rafael Del Valle by UD 12: WBA Super Bantamweight title 1998.
    15. Robert Garcia defeats John J. Molina by 12 UD: IBF Super Featherweight 1999.
    16. Erik Morales defeats Angel Chacon by KO 2: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1999.

    The 1990’s: Puerto Rico 20 -16 (11 KO’s) - Mexican & Mexican American 16-20 (4 KO’s)
     
  9. Zopilote

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    A victory from 3 decades ago that P.R. hasn't and will most likely NEVER top.
     
  10. IsaL

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    One thing I noticed is that Puerto Rican champs like to defend their titles against Mexican Cab drivers and celebrate it like a win in the rivalry... :lol:

    Mexico wins when it counts.
     
  11. Ruderic

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    I think with facts and data there is no debate .... As for the excuse of significant bouts all world title bouts are significant ....
     
  12. Ruderic

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    Wilfredo Gomez in world championship bouts versus Mexican and Mexican – American had a record of 10 wins 1 defeat and 10 KO’s.

    1. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Zarate TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    2. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Antonio Lopez TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    3. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Nicky Perez TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.
    4. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Raul Tirado TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1977.
    5. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Mendoza TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1979.
    6. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Ruben Valdez by TKO 6: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1980.
    7. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Lupe Pintor by TKO 14: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    8. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Roberto Rubaldino TKO 8: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    9. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Antonio Lopez TKO 10: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
    10. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Juan Meza TKO 6: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1982.
     
  13. Zopilote

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    There are more MexiCAN cab dirvers in boxing than the entire population of Puerto Rico...Of course PR is pile up many wins...But when it comes to important fights, Mexico takes it....Puerto Rico's greatest defeat came at the hands of a Mexican. :deal
     
  14. Ruderic

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    Mexico wins when it counts?

    1. Sixto Escobar defeats Rodolfo “Baby” Casanovas by KO 9: Montreal Athletic Commission World Bantamweight title 1930.
    2. Carlos Ortiz defeats Raymundo “Battling” Torres by KO 10: World Lightweight title 1960.
    3. Wilfredo Gomez defeats Carlos Zarate TKO 5: WBC Super Bantamweight title 1978.
    4. Wilfredo “El Radar" Benitez defeats Carlos Palomino by SD 15: WBC Welterweight title 1979.
    5. Pipino Cuevas defeats Angel Espada by TKO 12: WBA World Welterweight title 1977.
    6. Esteban De Jesus defeats Vicente Mijares Saldivar by TKO 11: WBC Lightweight title 1977.
    7. Salvador Sanchez defeats Wilfredo Gomez TKO 8: WBC Featherweight title 1981.
    8. Julio Cesar Chavez defeats Edwin "Chapo" Rosario by TKO 11: WBA Lightweight title 1987.
    9. Felix “Tito” Trinidad defeats Oscar De La Hoya by MD: WBC / IBF Welterweight title 1999.
    10. Ricardo Lopez defeats Alex Sanchez by TKO 5: WBC/WBO Minimumweight title 1997.
    11. Wilfredo Vasquez defeats Orlando Canizales by SD 15: Super Bantamweight title 1995.

    12. Felix “Tito” Trinidad defeats Fernando Vargas by TKO 12: WBA World Light Middleweight title 2000.
    13. Antonio Margarito defeats Miguel Angel Cotto by TKO 11: WBA Welterweight title 2008.
    14. Miguel Angel Cotto defeats Antonio Margarito TKO 10: WBA Jr. Middleweight 2011.
    15. Orlando Salido defeats Juan Manuel Marquez by TKO 10: WBO featherweight title 2012.
     
  15. IsaL

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    Data *******? :patsch :lol:

    Why doesn't your data show how many title defense Puerto Ricans had with fighter that looked like this 10-22-0 ??

    Doesn't show how many of those Mexican fighters were cab drivers either...

    Fact is, Mexico wins when it counts, especially most recently, and you guys will NEVER get over the raping Sanchez gave Gomez...So shove your data up you ass friend.