The Official Post Your Scorecard Berto-Collazo

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  1. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Here's mine.

    I gave the 1st to Berto based on this (Im taking this from konundrum who said it best)


    The first round was very close and could have gone either way. In my opinion Berto was not hurt in the 1st, Collazo caught him cleanly when he was off balance and he fell back, which led to a brief rally by Collazo. It all comes down to whether or not you thought Berto was "hurt." I felt like he was stunned and of balance, but not necessarily "hurt." I felt that Berto won the first part of the 1st round... then after the impressive rally from Collazo, Berto came right back and was the better man for the final minute of the round. I have no problem with someone giving this round to Collazo of course. Had I given it to Collazo my card would have been 114-113 for Berto, which is probably the exact way 2 of the 3 judges saw it.

    (I see it the exact same way he said this)



    1. 10-9 Berto
    2. 10-9 Berto
    3. 9-10 Collazo
    4. 8-10 Collazo
    5. 10-9 Berto
    6. 10-9 Berto
    7. 10-9 Berto
    8. 10-9 Berto
    9. 9-10 Collazo
    10. 9-10 Collazo
    11. 10-9 Berto
    12. 10-9 Berto



    And 116-111 was a bad scorecard.
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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  2. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Everyone screams Collazo won but doesn't post a scorecard.
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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  3. Scotty321

    Scotty321 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Its the mentality that a certain fighter has to be judged to win a round that causes controversy. I think if there was more 10-10 rounds then we would see less controversial decisions.
    As far as I'm concerned, a fighter needs to clearly win a round to earn that extra point.
     
    Scotty321, Jan 17, 2009
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  4. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    114-screw HBO for shutting down streams.
     
    BlueApollo, Jan 17, 2009
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  5. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    114-113 Berto...

    1. 9-10 Collazo
    2. 10-9 Berto
    3. 9-10 Collazo
    4. 8-10 Collazo
    5. 10-9 Berto
    6. 10-9 Berto
    7. 10-9 Berto
    8. 10-9 Berto
    9. 9-10 Collazo
    10. 9-10 Collazo
    11. 10-9 Berto
    12. 10-9 Berto

    It was not a robbery. It was a close fight that could have went either way. 114-113 is an acceptable score for Collazo as well.
     
    sues2nd, Jan 17, 2009
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  6. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Here's mine:

    1. 10-9 Collazo
    2. 10-9 Berto
    3. 9-10 Collazo
    4. 8-10 Collazo
    5. 10-9 Collazo
    6. 10-9 Collazo
    7. 10-9 Berto
    8. 10-9 Berto
    9. 9-10 Collazo
    10. 9-10 Collazo
    11. 10-9 Berto
    12. 10-9 Berto

    115-112 Collazo
     
    Zakman, Jan 17, 2009
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  7. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Wheres all the guys screaming robbery?
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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  8. 5Burowz

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    Only four rounds for Collazo??? You need glasses and some more Vitamin A in your diet.
     
    5Burowz, Jan 17, 2009
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  9. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Thanks.

    I don't see Collazo winning 5/6 though.
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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  10. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    5th was close, but Collazo spent the 6th doing nothing...you really gave it to him???
     
    sues2nd, Jan 17, 2009
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  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    8-4. Nothing wrong with that.
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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  12. fitzgeraldz

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    115-112 Collazo ... all out robbery ... I don't think that Berto did enough to win that fight at all.
     
    fitzgeraldz, Jan 17, 2009
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  13. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    Those are the pivotal rounds. The others, imo, were pretty clear. Like I said, a 114-113 score is defensible - precisely because of those two rounds. The 116-111 score was ridiculous.

    What irks me is that these HBO house fighters - Taylor is the worst example of this - get decisions in fights the other guy would have certainly lost if they had performed the way they did. There isn't a level playing field in this sport.
     
    Zakman, Jan 17, 2009
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  14. antcull

    antcull Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    10-9 Collazo
    10-9 Berto
    10-9 Collazo
    10-8 Collazo
    10-9 Collazo
    10-9 Berto
    10-9 Berto
    10-9 Berto
    10-9 Collazo
    10-9 Collazo
    10-9 Berto
    10-9 Berto

    114-113 Collazo
     
    antcull, Jan 17, 2009
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  15. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Scorecard fits. Not just score.
     
    eze, Jan 17, 2009
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