Yeah, we can definitely end on a note of agreement in that it's a debatable decision, but if it's debatable, i'm not sure how a robbery can be perpetrated.
I scored the fight 114 - 113 to Mungia but i would not have yelled robbery if the judges gave it to Derev
This thread isn't just about robberies though, look at the entries. It's about close fights that could have been scored the other way. Plenty of people felt Zorilla could have been given the nod here. That's justification under the second part of the thread title. It's why we have the following: 5/20/23 - Devin Haney vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - Haney UD 6/10/23 - Sunny Edwards vs. Andres Campos - Edwards UD 6/10/23 - Jaime Munguía vs. Sergiy Derevyanchenko - Munguia UD
I haven't seen many fights lately so I can't tell about recently, but, Blatant robberies have been historical in boxing. Now I haven't watched too many pre-1950s fights since almost no footage is available with the exception of Joe Louis and a few others but from what I have read, Louis-Walcott I was a robbery. Marciano-Ted Lowry 1 was close, some called it a robbery but most saw it at 6-4, 7-3ish for the Martian. Garcia-Armstrong was close to a robbery, it was a draw but many felt Armstrong should have won it to become the first 4 division champion. In 1985, fan girl me and everyone else who listened to it on the radio had Wilfredo Gomez beat Rocky Lockridge, I had it at 143-142. But seeing it on You Tube finally, I had it for Lockridge, 145-140. It was a robbery. More modern but still classic already nowadays, I was tempted to quit watching the sport in 1994 (but never considered it too seriously) after (specially) Chavez-Whitaker, Chavez-Randall II, De La Hoya-Molina and Moorer-Holyfield I, all of which I saw as robberies. I reviewed the latter two bouts and now I consider them very close but not necessarily a robbery. So robberies have been going on for faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr toooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo loooooooooooonnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggg.
I always screamed robbery if I had someone up 143-142 or 115-114 in the mid 80s and they gave it to the other guy by the same margin lol I was 12.... Now if the consensus was 143-142 but one judge or two had it 146-139 for the other side then you had a basis to scream robbery even if not a very strong one lol There are many fights however, and again Im gonna go classic here, which are on the 114-114 or 143-142 specter and people still call it a robbery, I'm talking about Rosario-Ramirez I, Spinks-Holmes II, (I had Holmes but by 143-142 only), Camacho-Rosario, Leonard-Hagler and Trinidad-De La Hoya for example. Those fights, in MNSH O, are debatable. Originally, I did not score Rosario-Ramirez I. I was there in person, but I was only 10 and was clueless as to how judges scored bouts. I just knew you could win by KO, TKO, or barring that, then what the judges said. I have it 114-114 now via You Tube. Spinks-Holmes II, well I just posted it. Camacho-Rosario I had it 115-114 for Macho, still more or less the same when I watch it again. I had Leonard by 118-111 the day of the fight but now I have it 115-113 either way or 114-114 depending on the day I am watching it. I had Trinidad winning 116-112 the day of the fight but now I see it 115-113 De La Hoya, occasionally I fall back to 114-114.
I agree. I had it 117-111 for Maxi. I don't think Kambosos was ever really in the fight. I only gave him 3 of the closer rounds, he definitely did not clearly win them. A very poor decision. The word robbery is quite apt here I feel.
I haven’t seen all of this thread, but going back a bit. The worst decision I’ve ever seen was Lewis v Holyfield 1. Holyfield won 3 rounds tops and was comprehensively beaten.
This content is protected IB's scorecard: 95-95 Clear rounds for Libranza: 2, 8 (nearly a 10-8), and 10. Clear rounds for Cafu: 3, 5, 9 Close rounds for Libranza: 1, 4 (close but pretty clear, Cafu was hurt) Close rounds for Cafu: 6, 7 by a cunny hair. Libranza hurt Cafu badly in round 10, Cafu clinched, they fell, and the ref took his sweet ass time getting them into neutral corners before calling time in. Judges returned a verdict of 98-92 and 97-93 x2 for Cafu. Boo!
