The Official Tays001 Hatton vs Pacquiao Poll

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  1. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    ok so iv'e been watching some past fights of both fighters and i've been noticing alot of important detail thats most experts have over looked.

    yes Pacman is fast has power and seems to has a good chin.

    he uses the right hand now but from what i've seen Pacman hasn't really been made to fight on the back foot at all at least not since the sanchez fight.

    pac has a crazy foward attack that is hard to pdeal with that jab jab staight left has gotten alot of fighters. and the right hand has come along great. but what iv'e notice is that pac really can't fight on the backfoot. all his success has come from his relentless attack . wich is great . cause alot of fighter (great fighters have had trouble with it.)


    However i've also been watching alot of tape of hatton who is always pushing foward and isalwasy on the war path early in his career he used good head and foot movement and he's starting that up again. he can cut off the ring reather well and rough you up. has a great left hook to the body that alot of peolpe forget about. and his right upper cut cam be damagging.

    thing is i've seen hatton when he fights he's never been beaten going by a figter coming at him . his only defeat was to PBF who beat him by taking a step back and cracking him with the(check) Hook. in order to beat hatton you have to be able to fight on the back foot. Kosta tried going at him and he got beat. so did castillo ,ben tacki, Mallinagi,and countless others. the ones he had trouble with were fighters that could counter him like Collazo , Pbf , lazcano( although that had alot to do with ricky really not being in the fight) PAcman onther other hand has been beaten and had close calls while fighting his style more so then hatton. the loss to Em and the 2 fight with JMM.

    i think in order for Pac amn to get this win he's going to have to do something he really doesn't do and figth on the back foot looking to counter hatton. i think stratgicly and stylisticly speaking this would ensure a victory for him. i just don't see Pacman doing this . and this is why is see hatton winning the fight.

    Not saying pacman can't win fighting his regular fight but the odds diminshes gratly and make Htton the favortie IMO if he does use that same style.

    this is why im picking hatton by 10th rd tko. a back and forth fight with both fighters having theire moments but Hatton will be to big to strong for pacman. pac will find the pressure hard to deal with after round 4 or 5 and start to give way.

    what are your thoughts and , who do you pick and how do you see the fight playing out?
     
  2. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Thats a good analysis. Hatton may use both the way he boxed takie and the way he backed Koysta up. Can't wait 6 days to go come on.
     
  3. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    yeah i can't either . im just hoping for a good fight:happy
     
  4. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    2-2 right now.

    nobody has a personal analysis of the fight ?

    only asking cuz it's great o hear stuff other then HAtton by ko or Pac by Ko and no actuall break down as to why you picked the guy.

    somes times we all do it but i know esb is full of Knowledge and poster opinions. so im just trying to get a gauge
     
  5. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    right now it takes a master boxer to beat Pacquiao someone like JMM or Mayweather guys that can explore Pac´s flaws and make him pay for his mistakes,a guy like Hatton that is even more flawed than Pac who comes forward in straight lines with his chin up in the air and throwing one punch at a time is not going to do it.

    Pac by KO and he will make it look easy.
     
  6. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    thing is that out of almost all of hatton's fights he has always moved his head. and at 140 he thows alot mor combo's plus his straight right hand isn't bad at all. but in no way will pac have an easy night even if he fights on the back foot
     
  7. AbbeyFN

    AbbeyFN Active Member Full Member

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    Pac is a great fighter but his win of DLH is being given too much weight in the analysis.

    Looking at Pac's past wins, I can see him getting backed up with Hatton's punches. At 140 Hatton is my favorite to win. I do not see it being an easy fight for either man but I do see a win by Hatton
     
  8. PH|LLA

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    this is a respectable analysis. When the fight was first called I also thought this is a difficult fight for Pac because both like to fight on the front foot but Hatton is alot stronger. But now I think Pac will not be pushed back as much as people think because he will be turning Hatton. So its not so much fighting on the backfoot as not allowing yourself to be pushed back.

    however anyone who says "iv'e been watching some past fights of both fighters" before making his analysis instantly has my attention.
     
  9. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i can see what your pointing to and in most cases that would be the case with a pressure fighter( ie. david diaz. not comparring him to hatton in any aspespects other then a pressure fighter.) but hatton's foot speed will be the key Factor IMO. this will negate pac being effective with his hit turn reset and hit again. and pac realy won't have any wherr to turn when backing up. hatton is great at cutting off the ring. pac has to be able to side step to hattons left and catch him coming in with the counter straight left. the way i see it if he can do that he can catch hatton right on the button(like Colozo did in the 12th round) and send him to the canvas a few times and eventually for the Ko. but after going through it many times a see pac not being able to handle going backwards and hattons ability to cut the ring off. in this instance his turning won't be effective like it was in the diaz and DLH fight.
     
  10. PH|LLA

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    even if that doesn't work of the bat, I can also see Pacquiao using his right jab, doubling and tripling it up, over Hatton's lead left to keep him at range. If he can establish that, I don't think Hatton will be able to cut the ring off effectively, and then Pac can start turning him

    also every time Hatton hesitates he will get caught in the open. So he will have to constantly be on his toes and I think he will get tired.
     
  11. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    yes but your assuming that hatton will not be moing his head when you talk about the double jab or tripple jab that would leave pac man open to the straight right or the the left hook to the body.

    this match has plenty of different possible outcomes and different intangables that can make the out come of this fights. great points by the way:good
     
  12. MemoCan

    MemoCan *****49ers Express***** Full Member

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    Hatton by TKO 10th. Its a long shot. But I'll go against the consensus.
     
  13. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    i agree but how do you see it playing out that way?
     
  14. san rafael

    san rafael 0.00% lemming Full Member

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    Good stuff. I've been saying something very similiar for months. ^

    Hatton will be open for Pacquiao's shots here and there, so the importance of how much damage Pacquiao may or may not cause when he's able to occassionally square something up seems fairly paramount.

    I assume you believe Hatton will take Pacquiao's best stuff no problems based on your non-mention of this aspect?
     
  15. tays001

    tays001 ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    yes i do becuase hatton has only really been hurt by counter punches punches he didn't see coming while moving in.

    i see pac trying to go head up with him at first for the first 4 or five rounds this will take some heat out of him and then he will be forced to go back wich will make his punches less effective IMO.