The Olympic point system can blow me!

Actually, aggression and defense do have an effect on the bout, especially when the result is an even score. All the thing you're suggesting are subjective and therefore too easy to manipulate and screw somebody; as happened in Jones' fight in 88. I much prefer the system we have now over the 10 point must system or the old amateur scoring; although I'd like to hear suggestions from the AIBA on how they would improve it.

 

This electronic scoring system was first officially used for Olympic competitions in the 1996 Olympic games, IIRC.

You have 5 judges at ringside, and when they see a boxer land a legal punch, at least 3 out of the 5 judges need to simultaneously press on the scoring button in order for that boxer to earn 1 point.

I think they changed from the traditional scoring system to the electronic system because the AIBA or the international boxing federation have been accused for years and years of having corrupt boxing officials.

Yes, this new system isnt so good.

And another bad thing about this electronic system is, body punchers and quick combo/flurry fighters are at a disadvantage. The judges may be pressing on their clickers, but not simultaneously, so the boxer receives no point.

The 1-2 head hunters love this system more.

Do you guys know that 1 powderpuff punch to the head scores 1 point.
And a legitimate KD or a standing 8 count only gets you 1 point also?

Wth :huh

 

Actually, a "powderpuff" punch won't do ****. It has to be a clean blow with due force behind it.

 

Well, yeah.

But what I was trying to say was,

1 clean jab = 1 legit KD?

 

It could, if the jab was hard enough. Power and knockdowns don't mean the same in amateur boxing as they do in the pros. It's not a blood sport, it's a technical sport.

 

what channel did you see the fights on ?

 

This electronic system really gives a big advantage to long, rangy 1-2 punching boxers.

Those stocky, short armed boxers who love to fight inside always have a hard time nowadays.

 

That's their problem. One of our best 165 pounders in the USA was only 5'8 if that and he did fine for himself.

 

What's his name?

Competing this olympics?

 

His name was Shawn Porter, and he lost at the Olympic Trials to Danny Jacobs. Shawn Estrada is the USA's middleweight.

 

OK.

I'll try to pay more attention to the middleweights this Olympcs.

 

****, Matvei Korobov is only like 5'9 and he'll probably win Gold at 165.

 

If you can stay up late enough or get up early enough (the two draws start at 1:30 and 7:00 AM EST daily, I believe, but check to make sure) You can watch them live online at www.cbcsports.ca

 

Most of the points you mention are broadly accurate. Not quite all of them, as defence is extremely important in amateur boxing and punches do have to have force behind them to count, but most of them. I think that you are missing a more fundamental point however: Amateur boxing is a different sport.

The boxers are not trying to knock each other out or rough each other up. They are trying to connect cleanly, with correctly thrown punches that land with the white part of the glove, and to avoid being connected with cleanly. That a clean jab counts as much as a clean power shot is not a bug, it's a feature. Speed, defence, accuracy and technical skills are what the scoring system rewards, not power, brawling, chin, aggression or many of the other things that are often central to the pro game.

The scoring system has some real problems. Even though it is harder to achieve a legitimate body bunch according to the amateur rules, and thus you would expect fewer body punches to score, even entirely clean body punches are more likely to be missed by the judges. Punches thrown in quick succession rarely count for more than 1 or at most 2 points, which is also a problem. And a certain number of all types good punches, whether to the head or not, don't get scored. This isn't an issue in most fights, as the missed punches tend to balance out, but it can be a problem in very close fights.

However, failing to reward skills or approaches which are important to the pro game is not in and of itself a problem. The system isn't meant to reward that. It is, as I keep saying, a different sport. That's one of the reasons why, although a stellar amateur career is a very good sign for a pro boxer, it isn't a perfect predictor of how someone will do as a pro.

As long as you remember that amateur boxing has different rules and a different skill set, a pro boxing fan can still get a huge amount out of watching the best go at each other. In particular, some of the technical skills of the Cubans and the best of the boxers from the ex-Soviet nations are wonderful to watch.

 

Just watched a guy get a standing 8 count without it scoring the other guy a point.

Case in point in why this scoring system ****ing sucks.

More punches are NOT scored than scored. It's a ****ing joke.