The Olympic point system can blow me!

"Most pro boxing fans don't like amateur scoring because they don't understand what amateur boxing is. Basically amateur boxing is a (pure) sport and pro boxing is entertainment. So if you're into pro boxing for the "blood'n'guts" bull**** you will most likely not like amateur boxing. Amateur boxing highlights the technical aspect of the sport so lumberjacks like Sam Peter who couldn't through a clean straight punch if his life depended on it and still enjoys a somewhat successful pro career wouldn't score a point in amateur boxing no matter how many punches he throws. Only clean punches with the knuckle part of the glove (highlighted by the whtite area on the glove) to legal target areas score points"

Can't agree with this at all, boxing started as pro sport from the bare knuckle days and therefore I would classify modern professional boxing being closer to a 'pure' sport than amatuer due to the fact that all the skills and attributes from amatuer sport are still applicable in the pro game but the pro game brings many more skills that have to be learnt. In addition some of the looping shots from Sam peter seem to be classed as stone cold scoring blows from what I've seen.

Also I've been watching the boxing at the olympics and it seems ridiculous that one fighter is hitting with straights and hooks that are clean i.e. white knuckle part of the glove with no interference and another is throwing wide looping shots as he jumps to the side (while still being hit) but barely connects yet still gets a point? It could be because the judges are only looking at one fighter or the system itself could it be due to short/long lag time for when each judge presses his button? or is it that the judges just aren't any good?

Why can't we have a system where each judge presses for when he sees a scoring blow and then have these averaged out at the end of the bout? it should hopefully stop the amount of underscoring that I'm seeing.

 

I say remove the headgear..
And the fight's become more watchable.
(I gurantee 80% of the fight's end on butts tho)

My fav part is picking which fighter is better

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The olympics point system dont get down like that homie

 

I see a lot of runners in these fights... damn!

 

Since when was bare knuckle boxing a sport? It's a competative form of primitive, archaic brawling. The matter of fact is you can be a succsessful professional boxer without much techincal skills, there are countless examples. So professional boxing doesn't require more "skills" but others than amateur boxing. Techical skills may help a professional boxer but they aren't a necessity, as long as you can throw a slow, looping, wide rabbit punch you're good to go. The differences between amateur boxing as a serious sport and professional boxing are so obvious in many aspects. In amateur boxing there are strict regulations who is allowed to box, you need to prove you are fit and able to box and there are age limitations. Look at what people are allowed to fight as a professional boxers, there seems to be no requirements at all, as long as you are willing to let you face get punched in for chump change you can be a "pro".

 

the judges are all fat ****ers with glasses, sitting there eating donuts and smokin ***s like c*nts!!!!!!!

they only scare the fighters they want to win, they robbed RJJ and mayweather, and they keep robbing other fighters aswell..

why employ old people to judge fights

 

I suppose this thread is referring to that lightheavy match which a China athlete won against a Tunisian, anyone correct me if I'm wrong. The point system also confuses me when I saw the scoring which I thought the result could have gone favorable to the Tunisian. It's the first time I saw no point registering in two rounds, unless the two boxers did nothing but just looked each other. It was visible the Tunisian connected the most even in the initial round which the chinese got the point and much more in the second and third. Funny thing the judges looked like they waited for the fourth round and gave just one point to the Tunisian and add a point to the host athlete to win. How would anyone think if you see something like this in olympic boxing?

 

Like in any sport, offense scores.

 

Other than when RJJ fought in the final!

I saw it on YT for the first time the other day, still struggling to think of words to describe it, other than schooling and robbery.

 

I've watched more.

Kolya, stop defending this ****. It's bull****, and you ****ing know it, you make yourself look stupid defending a broken ass system.

I have no problem that this IS NOT the pro game, I understand the rules. The ****ing rules are NOT enforced, as fighters consistently and routinely get jobbed on scoring blows, they just do NOT score this fights correctly. I actually watched a fight where one fighter landed a one-two, the other guy hit the guys arms and the guy who got HIT scored a point. I'm fine with a KD or S8 being scored the same as any other punch, that's fine... but score the point.

Also, don't call it computer or electronic scoring, it's not.. at all.. it's all human.

 

Yeah, but calling it "Having at least 3 out of 5 judges simultaneously pressing on the scoring button for a punching boxer to score 1 point" is just too long, man.

 

Let me get right back to you on this, ok? Because honestly, I much prefer boxing under this system then I would under pro rules.

 

As an aside, you guys need to stop listening to the three commentators they have working the Olympics. Those three clowns don't know what the hell they're talking about.

 

Here, I got this brief explanation from a friend at USA Boxing who handles computer scoring.

Using normal criteria - must land in the scoring area with the white knuckle surface of the glove, weight of the shoulder behind the punch and while not fouling.

That said - 3 out of 5 judges must push the button for the same boxer within a one-second window to have the computer "accept" the point.

This has nothing to do with the "raw score" where the computer accepts every single time the judge pushes the button for each boxer. Raw score is always higher than accepted score.

Seeing a low accepted score does not mean that those were the only punches the judges saw. Those are the only punches that were accepted by the computer.

 

That is the problem we all have. You accept that at as okay. It's not.

The fact is a large % of legal scoring blows are NOT scored. It's not the computers, it's the judges. It takes just 3 out of 5, right, we know that.. but how do atleast 3 judges seem to miss 50% or more of the scoring blows?

I like the sport, I agree with the rules.. I just think the SCORING SYSTEM as it sits now is at the very least BROKEN.