The one voter who was in favor of Margarito

To be honest boxing should never, ever allow a cheat or a man who tried to cheat by adding anything to his glvoes to box again. To fighters that is the most weasel way to cheat by adding something or take out something in or under your gloves.

 

i agree...
but this is different cause the trainer took full blame for it and said margo didnt have any clue........do you think capetillo would risk it all just to cover up for margo :huh


common sense bro
especially after all the talks of prison etc etc

 

Emanuel Steward, Freddie Roach, Don Turner, and Dan Birmingham have been honored as “Trainer of the Year” nine times by the Boxing Writers Association of America. Pat Burns trained Jermain Taylor for both of his victories over Bernard Hopkins and is a former police detective. Naazim Richardson trains Shane Mosley and is the man who discovered the illegal inserts in Margarito’s knuckle pads.

Their thoughts are instructive:

Dan Birmingham: “My guys watch me closely when I wrap. But what you’re talking about here happens pretty quickly. The pad goes on and then you put more gauze over it. So sure; it’s possible that the fighter wouldn’t know.”

Pat Burns: “Some fighters don’t pay attention when their hands are being wrapped. They’re listening to music or talking to someone or watching a television monitor. And even if they’re watching, they’re not wondering what’s in the knuckle pad. If I wanted to put a few layers of hardened gauze inside a fighter’s knuckle pads, I could and the fighter would never know.”

Freddie Roach: “If I did something like that, which I wouldn’t, I think I could do it without my fighter knowing. And if I was the fighter; Eddie Futch [who trained Roach] would never have done something like that. But if he had, I think he could have kept it secret from me.”

Don Turner: “I wouldn’t do it. I don’t cheat. But if I wanted to, unless what I was putting into the knuckle pad was very heavy, I could do it in a way that the fighter wouldn’t know. Even if the fighter is watching me wrap, he might not know because he wouldn’t see or feel the difference.”

Emanuel Steward: “My experience has been that a fighter watches very closely when his hands are being taped. But in a situation like this, it’s definitely possible that a trainer could put an insert in the knuckle pad without the fighter knowing. When I get in the dressing room before a fight, one of the first things I do is make two knuckle pads and put them on the table. I don’t put them in my bag. I leave them out on the table, and so does every other trainer I know of. So I have a hard time believing that Capetillo took the wrong knuckle pads out of his bag by mistake. But the fighter doesn’t watch me make the knuckle pads. A lot of times, the fighter isn’t even there when I make them. So the fighter wouldn’t know if I put something inside the pads unless I told him or the pads were heavy enough that he could feel a difference.”

Naazim Richardson: “I’m the wrong person to ask about this. If a guy is driving a truck and tries to run my daughter over and misses, don’t ask me what the punishment should be. But to be fair, yes, a fighter might not know.”

 

And you do?atsch

So did Roach and several others and what does that suppose to mean??? Sorry Freddy, you know damn well that means jack ****...I find it hard to believe he didnt know what was going on...Thats very hard to believe..


And the glasses jokes is getting played out homie...I could see if I actually wore glasses for real!

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Gotta love you guys!:rofl I needs to get them shits back and take a picture of me drooling...That will give you more ammunition!

 

Saying its possible doesnt make it fact! Nice try though...Its a possibility and I REFUSE to believe that bull****!

Get over it and stop trying to force your opinion...I dont believe him...Deal with it!atsch

 

i can't see **** in that picture, just floating clothes :rofl:rofl:rofl

just kidding man, but really....you choose not to believe margo and that's cool...i'm just providing proof that it's possible he didnt and many top notch people that know more than us seem to agree too......:good

 

**** you homie..I'm styling on you son! :rofl


I'm not shooting down the possibility...Maybe I'm wrong, and maybe you're right.

My only thing is, when fighters get their hands wrapped, I tend to see them looking at the trainer while having their hands wrapped...IMO, I honeslty doubt he didnt noticed what was being place into his wraps...If its solid evidence to say that Margorito actually didnt know...I would make a well though out apology on how wrong I was and I'll eat my big plate of crow...Freddy, I honestly dont believe he didnt know...I'm sorry but thats just my opinion on this!

 

Yo Freddy, See this my point here on why I say its hard to believe him!

Dan, pretty much touched on my approach on the whole situation...Thats how I look at it...At first I didnt try to hear that but I think, I've lighten my stance a little bit on the issue.

 

that's cool bro, i'm actually more impressed with that floating beer bottle in your picture :shock::shock::shock:


really though, after seeing how capetillo did it, that answered a lot of questions.....the wrap was already made and the pad was hidden inside of it.....

i can speak from experience about hand wrapping that's why i can understand him......but we all have the right to our own opinion....


****, i remember in a tournament once i was so ****en nervous i didnt even notice that i had two of my fingers wrapped/taped tight together....:rofl:rofl until after the fight

 

understandable bro....

 

I see what you're saying and thats cool...I respect your opinion as well homie.

LMAO...My cousin is black as hell though!:rofl

 

That's purely subjective opinion which isn't legal. You can't convict someone just because you don't believe them, **** why have courts and a checks and balance system? Why bother? You're guilty because I said so!

Ok, hyperbole aside, we obviously can't convict because of what we expect was someone's intent.

 

for reals bro, that brutha makes tarver look like canelo alvarez