Marvin Hagler, Harry Greb, James Toney and Bernard Hopkins would all probably beat GGG in their primes.
Golovkin hasn´t even had a challenge yet you hype him up insanely. This post is not worth answering really.
golovkin has only just beaten a world class post prime guy who wasn't elite. this means he can beat a world class post prime non elite guy. it means nothing concerning his ability to beat atgs/hofers. granted he did a good job of his WC PP guy, that's very impressive.
Why do posters do this with fighters. It's like they do it on purpose so that people can **** on them. He is a quality fighter but there are better Middles in yesteryear.
Prime MW Hopkins, Hagler, and Robinson seem like obvious guys to mention here alongside Monzon... Above mentioned guys ranging from Benvenuti, Tiger, Basilio, Fullmer, Griffith, and LaMotta are all solid shouts. I think prime MW Hearns and Sergio aren't ridiculous claims but I suspect many out there at the moment would dismiss those, which shows how out of control Golovkin's accomplishments are at the moment.
I´m sad that ESB is the only forum for boxing - there are just too many hate messages. Seriously, where do you find more irrelavant, illogical and irrational comments than here? Are boxing fans the most stupid ones or what? You can´t compare former champions to fighters of our generation. Saying this and that about how GGG handles Jones Jr or Toney is not about knowhow, it´s based on imagination. Can´t you see the difference? Its different story to compare their skills and attributes but if you follow the sport you know it doesn´t solve the puzzle. To me GGG has power more than any other fighter in MW division that I have ever seen. He has skills that I haven´t seen. But I can say the same thing about Jones Jr. Only he had a bit different kind of power and skills. Who was more skillful, that I can´t say. The same goes to Toney. Toney had skills but not enough for Roy. It doesn´t meen he didn´t have skills. He just had different kind of skills and was too slow for Roy. Styles make fight. And what comes to GGG, he is in his prime now and he might be in his prime for two or three years more. I would seriously recommend you to enjoy that time because after that he will be missed and we might have to wait quite some time to see next fighter of his caliber.
You're trying to come over as "Mr Considered and Reasonable" but your credibility ended with that sentence. So because he's beat such "immortals" as Daniel Geale and Matthew Macklin that means virtually no middleweight has the skills to beat him? Hagler,Monzon,Robinson,Walker,Fitzsimmons their skillset,determination,heart and toughness doesn't match his?
At least 11 middleweights would beat GGG. Carlos Monzon Marvin Hagler Ray Robinson Bernard Hopkins Harry Greb Charles Burley Mickey Walker Stanley Ketchel Freddie Steele Dick Tiger Gene Fullmer
the all important wording, true ALL past current and future MW champs, contenders and pretenders "CAN" beat trip G and every fighter in history BUT would they ?, HELL NO. ****, its possible for Mike Tyson to become president of the US, but it wouldn't ever happen, still a possibility since he is a citizen
160 Bhop Prime Sergio Hagler RJJ Toney And this is of modern fighters, just a few. And all of these guys I think beat him, a few of them easily actually. Lets let GGG fight someone first, he's got flaws but we let his power mystify us. If he continues sparking guys out at the elite echelon then we can start this conversation.
People will always say that the previous generation is better, it's just how we think - it's our reality, our perception. No one knows what would have happened, these comparisons are pointless. If you have a disciplined skillful fighter like GGG who has a healthy and balanced nutrition today (and I'm not talking about PEDs, so please stop) and proper evolved training regime, then who knows what would have happened if they fought. There are so many caveats that it really doesn't make sense. But one thing is really common - people always say the previous generation/s was/were better, and this is highly subjective.