The only way to beat Carl Froch............

Hopkins can do it, but his stamina is going to be a question.

 

Yeah, sure dude.

 

Where was Taylor's lateral movement? That is some of the most bogus logic I've heard. Taylor plants his feet and throws power shots for the first 6 rounds and then tires. He is not a good mover.

Kessler will knock Froch out, take it to the bank.

 

It would not take a "silky smooth" boxer to beat Froch. Carl Froch's defense is his chin, and there are plenty of guys around his weight who would crack that chin.

Froch's foot work and positioning are atrocious. His lead foot is so far out in front of his back foot that he stands at a ridiculous angle; an angle that causes him to give up a significant portion of his reach, and makes it damn near impossible for him to get out of the way.

Froch's gaurd combined with his lack of reflexive speed make it easier to hit him than it is to miss him.

Lack of head movement, poor footwork, leaky defense, slow hands, slow feet; ya, a slick boxer with good stamina would clown Froch for 12 rounds.

And, a guy with a sharp, versatile left, and a big right hand would knock Froch out. He is a very simple fighter to figure out. Jab-jab, right hand, close with a hook, and somewhere in the mid rounds Froch goes down and stays down.

 

Just because you met him it doesn't make him a great fighter.

Kessler takes him out inside 3 rounds.

 

Don't even bother with an analysis; only idiots who swallow the propaganda the press feed us over here think Carl Froch is anything other than a brave chump. Kessler would take him to school.

 

You talk about skills, but Taylor doesn't have **** for skills.

Froch is vulnerable to speed because Froch is slow, and it takes him a while to adjust.

Taylor has speed, but his skills are rudimentary and even amateur at best. The only thing that kept Taylor in the fight was his athletic ability, but mainly his speed.

Kessler is relatively straight up and down too, but his skillset is still superior to Taylor's who makes too many amateur mistakes, and appears to have no answer for a combination of pressure and size.

When he can't bully his opponent or beat them with athleticism, the fight quickly falls out of his favor.

Froch can beat Kessler, but I don't know if he's fast enough, and I'm not sure he's crisp enough with his counterpunching to win a decision.

I think Kessler would be favored.

 

For a guy who's in love with Pavlik, I'm surprised you make this type of assertion about Froch who can at least bend his knees.

Froch obviously needs to refine his style more to suit his lack of athleticism, but he's a good counterpuncher and his stance is fine for what he's trying to do, which is make his opponent lead.

What bothers Froch is speed and this will be his limitation. Taylor had speed, but he had no skills.

You get a guy like Kessler who is still relatively straight up and down, but has speed and skills, and it's very likely that Kessler would win a decision against Froch.

But if you expect him to knock Froch right out, it's doubtful because Kessler doesn't take too many risks. It would likely be a boring fight that would be deterimined by the judges and it would be a difficult fight to judge at that.

 

You have to be able to go 12 rounds vs. Froch. Meaning you have to be in tip top shape. He reminds me of Soliman. Whenever you hit him he just takes it and keeps going. He would be a tough opponent for many guys at 168

 

Taylor can whip Froch's ass.

You guys act like Taylor got blown out, punished, and shut out the whole fight like Margarito did for 9 rounds by Shane, and then knocked out at the end. Or that he was blown away like Ricky Hatton was by Pac.

Taylor was winning the fight, and was KOed due to a lack of stamina, nothing more, nothing less. And he loss with 14 seconds left in the 12th. How much closer can you get in a KO fight? Taylor deserves a rematch, and could conceivably outbox Froch early, then hold on the last rounds.

How can Froch be this unbeatable juggernaut and Taylo be a washed up heartless amateur bum? Some of you ****in idiots just don't make sense.

 

The thing with Froch is, when you stun him, you need to follow up, but you have to follow up in a way where you anticipate where his head is going to be.

You can't just jump on him recklessly or he's going to follow up with a counter or use his size against you.

 

It had nothing to do with stamina.

Nothing. That's such bull****. Taylor is just a **** boxer. He don't know how to box worth a ****. He uses his size and athleticism to win fights.

He's done it in almost every fight. Against Ouma, BHop, and every other fighter's he's faced.

The thing is when he's unable to use his size and athletiscm against his opponent and they pressure him, like Wright, Pavlik, and now Froch, he looks clueless.

Not only that but he makes fundamental mistakes like squaring up completely when his opponent has him against the ropes.

He don't use his jab to set **** up except his bow and arrow right hand, and he don't know how to finish people which was why he was hesitant when he had Froch hurt.

Taylor didn't look like he lacked stamina to me. It looked like his nerves got to him, looked like he was making fundamental amateur mistakes on the ropes, and it looked like that despite having the advantage in speed, power, reflexes, and experience, he didn't have any answer for Froch's counterpunching which was why he was hesitant to follow up.

What do you see in Taylor?

The mother ****er lacks skill. I mean, think about it like this. You got a guy like Archie Moore who beat guys who had 40 lbs on him....that's skill.

You got Taylor though and as soon as his opponent can take his predictable offense, and has size and can pressure him, folds like a lawn chair.

Mosley is a in a different league than Taylor.

I'm sorry...

 

Axe man,thanks for raising the Pavlik question :good I find it laughable that anyone is taken in by the Pavlik Hype.Now i love watching Pavlik and think he's a decent guy,but lets be realistic he's seriously overated.He's what would of been called a "Slugger" 50 years ago.He may have boxed and dominated the likes of Lockett but hey,he was embarrassed by BHop, almost gone against Taylor and seriously rattled by Miranda.Maybe some folk should question there own allegiances before casting aspersions about other fighters.
P.S im no Froch nuthugger,but give credit where its due and criticism where needed.:good

 

I can see Andrade beating him TBH.

 

Who has Kessler beat that's better then Taylor? Froch has a better win on his record then Kessler and Bute and has a good chance of beating either I think. Kessler didn't show the heart to pull through in his big chance against Calzaghe and Bute has been on the verge of being knocked out, so Froch is more then a worthy contender for either.