The Oral Cavity and Balance - No

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by dealt_with, Nov 23, 2015.


  1. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    This is for everybody who buys into a certain posters talk about the 'oral cavity', position of the head dictating everything else etc.
    I'd like to demonstrate just how poor his understanding of this topic is.

    What he is talking about is the vestibular system:
    [url]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestibular_system[/url]

    This is fairly basic stuff for anybody with an elementary understanding of the nervous system.

    So where does this posters talk about 'oral stability' come from? The word 'vestibule' basically means a space or opening to another structure.
    The vestibule that plays a part in balance/coordination etc. is the vestibule of the ear.
    During his talks to homeopaths, chiropractors and other quacks he has somehow confused the vestibule of the ear with the vestibule of the mouth. Hence his talk about the 'oral cavity and balance'.

    [url]http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/oral+vestibule[/url]

    Nowhere will you find anything about the oral cavity being involved with balance. That is simply the unnamed posters poor understanding of basic human anatomy.

    The guy means well (I think) but he is not credible, he is not educated and he bases his training philosophies and ideas off this poor understanding. The things he talks about are only relevant to clinical populations. No athlete should be wasting time balancing on things, massaging their feet for proprioceptive input - those things are going to do precisely nothing for someone who doesn't have poor proprioceptive input (when you injure a joint proprioceptive input can be impaired). If you're not injured then I implore you not to waste your time listening to the guy. Get stronger and practice your sport on flat ground.
     
  2. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Please explain to me why both eyes see differently the object thats seen, should be fun.
     
  3. dealt_with

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    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_perception

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ocular_dominance

    Now please explain what relevance that has to do with anything, should be fun.
     
  4. The Smoking Man

    The Smoking Man Boxing Addict banned

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    The oral cavity bit is correct . And your right about the proprioceptive training. However high level proprioceptive training is benifical to anyone
     
  5. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It has a lot to do with muscular imbalance, and injuries. Dominant eye has greater peripheral vision, while the lesser eye is for picking up depth and distance , but is more shortsighted than the dominant eye. Over time this in movement causes an imbalance, to your centre of gravity Hips, because of plant and gait, simple really.
     
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    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Athletes are already limited with their time. Everything they do develops proprioception. To focus on proprioceptive training - foolish and a waste of time. Exercises on bosu ***** and unbalanced surfaces provide no benefits and have no transfer to anything.
     
  7. The Smoking Man

    The Smoking Man Boxing Addict banned

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    For elite athletes there is little room for improvement however for developing young athletes high level proprioceptive exercises can be very helpful
     
  8. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    For someone who believes in a pseudoscience based on a belief of the bodies 'innate ability to heal itself' you sure don't have much faith in it.
    The eyes don't cause damage, don't be ridiculous. They are one point of sensory input, unless they are severely overpowering everything else or nothing else is working (again clinical populations) then there is no way they can cause any imbalances to movement. The feedback from your joints, muscles, skin, vestibular system, eyes are all collected upstairs and regulated by the cerebellum. The eyes are just one point of reference.
    Again this is another ridiculous idea of yours, based off an extremely poor understanding of basic human anatomy.
     
  9. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What do you actually mean by 'high level proprioceptive training'? That doesn't mean anything. When someone does a squat or practices boxing technique they are performing proprioceptive training. It's especially important for beginners not to waste their time on circus tricks that have no transfer to anything.
    You never have to focus on proprioceptive training unless there has recently been some sort of injury.
     
  10. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Im not being ridiculous, its obviously something you are not aware of, like lots of things it seems.
     
  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Funny then that I'm the one actually discussing things and asking questions. All you seem to have is "You don't know". So how about explaining? Do you think you have some sort of esoteric information about the human body that nobody else knows about? You're an absolute fool S****.
     
  12. scrap

    scrap Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There are people who already know, its things like this, that sports science is coming to terms with, mind they have for some time. I try to converse, but find you rude.
     
  13. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You can't keep this in a private message. Isn't a message board where a lot of anonymous people post **** abt the same topic? Dealt with you need to keep it 100 w urself and grow up.
     
  14. SteelShoulders

    SteelShoulders Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The eyes must have some effect on balance though. We all must agree on that, no?
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    You don't understand basic ****, nothing to do with sports science or anything to do with athletes. This is basic anatomy, basic human function that you are talking about. A first year sports science student learns about and is more knowledgable than you on the topics you're talking about. Just as a base understanding of human function. That's how far behind you are.