The other 'fab 4'

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  1. themostoverrated

    themostoverrated Active Member Full Member

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    The term 'fab 4' is applied to four boxers who fought each other in and around the welter and middleweight divisions - Duran, Leonard, Hearns and Hagler. Some variations include Benitez as well. These boxers fought the top guys of the time and held titles from the late 70s intto the early 90s. But there was another 'fab 4' group in the 2000s who fought in the lower weight classes.

    Manny Pacquaio
    Marco Antonio Barrera
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Erik Morales

    All four chaps were elite fighters and most of their fights occurred in and around the feather and lightweight divisions. Marquez and Morales never faced each other, but all other permutations were achieved and most of their fights match the original fab 4 in terms of quality and intensity.

    Why hasn't this 'fab 4' group achieved the same degree of popularity as the 80s gang?
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    Harry Z. Truman once said: The only new thing in the world is the history you don't know. But let me tell you this about that: If you compare great skill-sets to ultra-great-skill-sets, you're beating the devil's tattoo on the coffee table of hell. And hell is in the Classic forum. You tell those dogs you're coming and you're bringing hell with you. They're no daisies. Why, they're no daisies at all.
     
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  3. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Who is ready to suffer for Christ (the truth)? Full Member

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    Bernard Hopkins
    Roy Jones Is.
    James Toney
    I miss the fourth one
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Alexis Arguello

    Bazooka Limon

    Bobby Chacon

    Cornelius Boza-Edwards
     
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  5. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Benn
    Watson
    Eubank
    Collins

    Toney
    Nunn
    McCallum
    Barkley

    then (???), these 4

    RJJ
    Griffin
    Bhop
    Cal
     
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  6. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think it's as simple as they're all smaller, and none of them have English as a first language.
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    James didn't fight Hopkins but Tarver fought Roy and Hopkins. Calzaghe also fought Roy and Hopkins.
     
  8. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Castillo
    Mayweather
    Corrales
    Almost Casamayor
     
  9. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Having trouble closing the circle (with the everybody fought everybody else attempt) on late 1970s/early 1980s light heavyweights, but there’s a fab bunch to be bound among:

    Matthew Saad Muhammad

    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad

    Marvin Johnson

    Yaqui Lopez

    Michael Spinks

    Dwight Muhammad Qawi

    And maybe James Scott

    It’s sort of the end of one era (MSM/EMM) and the start of another (Spinks/Qawi) with Scott and Johnson and Yaqui crossing over to some degree.