The Pac who fought Cotto vs Floyd who fought Hatton

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  1. prelude

    prelude Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like I said I saw PAC got dropped by a punch to the b alls but slow motion don't lie, PAC got dropped by a punch to the jaw. Don't be surprise that PAC had the better defenses and counters that night he fought Floyd, your eyes are deceiving you. Video don't lie and PAC was making Floyd misses and countering his azz all night. I can go to sleep knowing PAC beat that azz, I'm sure chopping woods and air chamber helped a lot.
     
  2. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where standing on your head with one eye open and the other **** eyed. While singing the national anthem also to go along with watching it in slow mo. Lol. That watching it in slow mo is played now homie. I don't care how you watched it. The result is the same. Mayweather did outland Pacquiao. Just accept it
     
  3. punisher

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    How was he hitting "harder" though? Power is the last thing to go. Unless? Nah...I won't go there. He hasn't had a lot of KOs since moving up to Welter.

    He was FASTER...but, the difference of his speed then and now is clearly a sign of aging. The same goes for Floyd, in that respect.

    The schooling (no pun intended) he got from Floyd was always about who was the more skilled fighter...not who hit harder. And it clearly showed on the night.
     
  4. wylan911

    wylan911 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you. No one else seems to get that.
     
  5. schooling

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    Maybe i used the wrong word try this
    Pac had more of a killer instinct back in those times and was more explosive can you deny that?
     
  6. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes he was. But when fought guys who were harder to hit, he got discouraged. That was true against Marquez for sure. And we saw it against Bradley too ( first fight).
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Power is the last to go. But here the thing. Everything has already went.

    You simply cannot put in tape of 03-09 Manny and compare him to 2015. He was so much better back in the day.
     
  8. tinman

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    Ledwaba was considered a mover and a super slick guy. Pacquiao banged him like a drum starting in round 1.

    And he banged Marquez to the canvas many time too.
     
  9. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was YOUNGER. But, his opposition was better in the last few years. You can't put in tape with Manny vs Hatton, De La Hoya, and Cotto and say he would do any better against Floyd or JMM than what he did.
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    No dude. His opposition was better when he was fighting the Mexicans.

    When he was young he actually beat prime JMM too.

    He can't fight slick fighters. Ledwaba was the slickest man south of 130 in the world and Pacquiao just killed him.
     
  11. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well...no he fought 3 close fights against JMM that many think he lost. He w/o a doubt lost the 3rd ( but got the nod). And he was KOd in the fourth fight. Ledwaba was just not as good as Marquez in terms of stylistic matchups against Pac.
     
  12. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    See my previous post. I think I answered this.
     
  13. tinman

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    Ledwaba was even slicker than JMM. He was the slickest man sub 130 in the world. That guy could move believe it or not.
     
  14. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He was not SMARTER. That's my point. Judah is "slicker" than JMM...doesn't mean he's the smartest guy in there.
     
  15. tinman

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    No. He had a better chin. Marquez was able to get up and fight on after getting rocked.

    Ledwaba couldn't handle the power of young Manny.