The Pacman ain't old, he ain't gonna gas, a southpaw, has the speed, and the power.

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  1. RobertV77

    RobertV77 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Again why is what you are saying valid? "Just cause" You have an unfounded opinion that a younger fighter would "tag him" and its as simple as that? Did you see how fast Shane's hands were tonight? What younger fighter can stand in the pocket and counter with hands as fast as Shane's? Oh I forgot they will "Tag him" because your in your expert opinion, "Floyd is starting to fade".
     
  2. tays001

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    So now that he got past the Jab what about that Str8 right hands Zipping into his face. Does he just walk Throught that as well and what about that Left hook of the Turn?
     
  3. Palo

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    I had thought Manny by KO in the 9th or 10th. Now I'm thinking Floyd won't last past 6 rounds.

    I don't think this fight happens. I don't think Floyd wants to lose his zero and take the beating he'd receive. I predict Floyd will create reasons for the fight not to happen and he'll retire or move up to face Sergio which is a better match up for him. If Floyd ever fights Manny it's just proof he's burning through his cash too fast and he's desperate to hang onto his lifestyle. The only thing Floyd values more than his zero is his lifestyle.
     
  4. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    You do know that speed, footwork, and southpaw fighters trouble PBF. Zab and Pac are both southpaws with blazing handspeed and a great straight left. I guess that is nothing in common though right? He is bothered by agression too(Burton made it interesting, Castillo might have won the first fight with it). Pacquiao has all these traits. He will cut off the ring, tag Mayweather with left hands, right hooks, and do it often.

    Sure Floyd will land the jab, and he will land the right hand but at welterweight Pacquiao has more power and he has the better chin as well. Go ahead and bring up him gettin KO'd when he was a teenager. Floyd is gonna get broken down late.

    I see you are already frothing at the mouth by reading your posts so emotion is already taking over logic for you when it comes to you being able to hold down a decent conversation.
     
  5. markq

    markq Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pac is not going to do squat to Floyd. He won't take the test.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    All this coming from a ****ing idiot who said Mosley would stop PBF.:deal
     
  7. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    I guess Pacquiao doesn't have arms when Mayweather throws and Floyd is gonna land 100% of his punches. His defense isn't great but it is certainly no worse than average. Let's assume he has shitty footwork like Shane did tonight and doesn't know how to properly cut the ring off either.
     
  8. tays001

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    you talk about Knowledge and All yet yuover look how a jab a strong jab negates speed. and your answer for this is well That won't effect PAc. Whya cuz PAc is some sort of ****ing tank now? :lol:

    YOu mention Judah and PAc . BUt the ONly thing they have in common is being very fast Southpaws. other then that their style comparison ends there. judah is a totally different offensive fighter who usally doesn't throw in combanation and tries to time fighters with his fast hands. you mention castillo an in your chest pressure fighter who loves to throw hooks and work the Body. how are him and PAcman alike. other then being pressure fighters cuz they pressure in totally different ways? and you mention pac man having a better chin ? that is not a fact that is an oppinion oyu have. her are some facts PBF has only been down officially 1 time and it was froma punch he threw. PAc has been nocked down and rocked on severall different occasion and yes even at Welter . Clottey marked him up and he's not a hard puncher. and PBF is more accurate then him. go watch some more fights,gather other facts. watch lots of past fight and then you'll see PBF has the style advantage and has the better chance of winning:good
     
  9. Pimp C

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    Pac will not throw that many punches against PBF. Before the fight everyone said Mosley's combo punching would give PBF hell. How many combos did Shane throw against PBF? There's a reason why he didn't throw any PBF is hard as hell to hit clean and he punches harder than you haters give him credit for. Pac would be equally as befuddled as Mosley and the other 40 fighter who have tried.
     
  10. tays001

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    fact is PBF has longer arms and is taller. and it's hard to cut off the ring when a fighter step to the side of you.

    and PAc man does have arams which is why when he finishing up a Flurry an the arms of PBF he'll be getting countered witha hook to the Body or head. Pac will be reaching in this fight and trying to press the action which favor PBF. PAcs not going to sit back and try ot oput box him thats not his style and not his mentality. he'll be trying to swarm and get picked off most of the time.

    also PBF has better reflexes then PacMan which is why Pbf is hardly ever marked up. he dodge punches something pacman forgets to do alot of the times
     
  11. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    Mosley's a different fighter than Pacquiao. He doesn't have the footwork, stamina, southpaw style, or two-fisted explosion Pac has at this point. These are huge factors when fighting PBF.

    I thought that Mosley's only chance were 1,2 combos down the middle. Not 4 or 5 punch combos because he simply does not have that stamina or athletism anymore. Shane needed to be more active but he didn't throw when he closed in. Pacquiao has the physical talent to do damage at mid and close range that a 38 year old Shane does not.

    The reach, straight right, and jab are gonna give Pacquiao the most problems. I think Pac will be able to slip under the left-hook and counter with a left of his own. If Pac can get through that then I feel he can do enough work to stop Floyd.

    I think it will be a great fight though. One I will buy. Then again I buy every Mayweather and Pacquiao fight.
     
  12. sauroncuneta

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    Their stylistic difference makes the fight VERY COMPELLING. Offense vs. Defense. Hope this fight will be done.
     
  13. gyll

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    Hah. First of all, Shane is one of the hardest punchers in the game. I really don't see how Pac's power is tremendously better. Secondly, I notice you're a fan of Fedor? How many times have we've seen him in trouble yet FIND a way to dominate and win? What if I were to say Carwin would knock Fedor out cold due to he fact that Fujita was able to stun Fedor with one shot? It could happen, but still, sounds kinda lame. Fact is the great ones don't have to dominate and appear invincible in each and every fight. Their ability to overcome adversity should be credited, not criticized. And finally, I could give you a taste of your own medicine. I can easily say Floyd could touch Pac all night if a C class fighter like Clottey could freely land his punches on Pac basically whenever he threw. I can also say Floyd could have a field day if he does what Cotto did in rd 1 against Pac. With Floyd's solid stamina he could do that easily for 12 rds.
     
  14. chadDe72

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    :good

    This man speaks the truth.

    Pac leaves himself open, he's easy to hit, he's off-balance, throws tons of punches a round, which Mayweather WILL counter, and doesn't have that great of a chin.

    Like you said, he doesn't use his jab. He's an offensive fighter, which will get him in trouble.

    Mayweather is fast, elusive, great conter puncher, and lots more.

    Pac will start off trowing punches at will until May counters. Then, we'll see a Mosley like mode set in. He won't be able to pull the trigger.
     
  15. Fedor Em

    Fedor Em Enforcement, VRWC style Full Member

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    When did I say that it wouldn't effect Pac? I have said in a few posts that is gonna be his biggest problem in the fight. I just said that Pacquiao is gonna be landing himself (right hooks, straight lefts) and he is the bigger punching, more durable fighter. This translates into a late round stoppage.

    Judah was the aggressor for the first half of the fight with PBF. All fighters try to "time" fighters.:D Then when he broke down mentally like he does about midway through all his big fights he stopped fighting with effective pressure. Floyd does have a problem with southpaws and it is a legit point to bring up. Judah has a better jab and Pacquiao is better at putting combinations together but both have similar lethal left hands.

    Castillo does bring different type pressure but all types can disrupt a fighter if it is effective. KD and rocked on several occassions? Cotto and Morales stunned him maybe twice and that is pretty much it. How many times has he been down since he hit featherweight? I'm not talking about weight drained Packy. I am talking about the real Pacman. Erik Morales looked beat up many times after he dominated fights. How a fighter looks after a fight is pretty irrelovent.

    I have seen most of Floyd's work from 135+ and Pac's from 126+ but I will still continue to research them.