The pacman express is coming to an end, how many fans will jump off the bandwagon?

If there are guys like Arron Pryor on the ATG list....which he is, then Floyd and PAC are there as well based on what they've done. It's your personal feeling they are not, which is fine, but overall you are not in the majority brah.

 

oh now Valero is a threat? still hatin'. Valero is a Bum, cant even fight in vegas.

 

Yet Valero fools you? , seriously man, based on that guy's style he gets iced within the first 30 seconds of the first round. I wouldn't be surprised if he hits the canvas 10 times within the first 30 seconds based on his style and **** poor defense. God, don't get me started on his laughable wild swings, he makes amateurs look professional.

If you were picking Mayweather, Cotto, Bradley, Campbell or anyone else I won't argue with you much but Valero?!?!, come on!

Valero might as well move up if he wants it, the guy is rumored to fight a beyond shot Casamayor and it's considered a MAJOR step up, go figure. Pac is busy fighting guys NO ONE expected him to fight and EVERYONE laughed at the thought of him fighting only 1 year ago.

 

I for one will continue to be a fan of Pac and Cotto win or lose.
I see a victory for Cotto here based on Cotto's overall strength and fighting abilities, no excuses should be made for either fighter here, the winner of this fight will rightfully deserve all the accolade's.

 

Calzaghe has no losses. But he's not considered in ESB a great fighter. Why?

 

For me Pac is an ATG ( I'm not Pac fan and I wanted him to lose in everyone of his fights) for his matches against the Mexicans because they are all HOF or ATG depending on your opinion. His wins against Oscar and Hatton are much tougher to evaluate for me.Floyd is going to be ATG only if he beats at least one real WW - Cotto, Mosley, Clottey. Even if he loses to two of them and beat one he is an ATG because it shows that he took on the big fight and the big guys. IMAO.

 

Not enough major names in his resume.

 

We got our first Valero Nuthugger ladies and gentlemen:happy

 

Nobody said Roach is draining fighters excpet you and Pac's fans. Everyone knows Cotto struggled to make 140, so that is why fans don't want to see Cotto take the fight at 145. Real fans thought 170 was too much for PAv to jump to fight hop...even Pav thought so, and JT-Pav at 166 was cool because people thought JT couldn't make 160. AA fought Miranda at a catch weight because Miranda wanted the fight at smw because Miranda found it hard to make 160. Save the bull Scar...

 

Like Valero.

 

not harsh, just bold on your prediction.

 

Pavlik had fights previously at super middle and 170 so this wasn't a new move.

There is no bull. Cotto his self said that he can make 145, didn't he weigh 146 in his last fight?. He openly admitted that ANYTHING below 145 he WON'T waste time with so that means he can make 145 and will take it if it's there. Surely you can't say that you know Cotto's body better than he and his team do.

 

No.

 

Look, you are nothing but a boxing fan with an oipinion Scar..that's it. You can say anything you want about Valero, like I would care lol... Use any choice of words you want talking about Valero, but know this lol, Valero was not ko'd by any bums like your hero Pac was... 2 times in 3 rounds PAc was ko'd.

 

You know its about how you finish a career...not how you start it. Look at Nard....loosing his first time out as a pro. But Ed will be something big in this sport. He just needs to get licened in the US and get some big names to face him. But he needs to step up gradually...not make a LEAP.