The parallels of Marciano and Wilder

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  1. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    We agree on most things but i might have spotted you and Philly saying the decision was fair or similar and mocking robbery claims? I have to say i disagree on this occasion and would have no problems with anyone calling it a robbery even with Fury getting dropped twice.
     
  2. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes we do disagree here mate
     
  3. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, you're walking a very tight rope if you don't discourage Wilder for throwing that right. If he gets to throw it all night it will land sooner or later.
     
  4. Gazelle Punch

    Gazelle Punch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Marciano and Wilder couldn’t be more different but there are a few similarities. Both unorthodox both with great power. Both did fight weaker competition in the beginning. But Marciano really honed his craft in later third of his career. Idk how people watch his fights and don’t see the skill (they only see the awkward missed shot here and there). Which let’s face it was probably due to his poor reach. The Wilder Fury fight almost ended like Marciano Walcott but credit to Fury for getting up from what looked like a coma.
     
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  5. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Though I wouldn't bet on Fury getting up from the Suzie Q Walcott got hit by!
     
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  6. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I see no similarities, at all.

    Marciano might not have ever looked polished, but I think he had a method in there and, no matter how unfathomable that might have been, it yielded consistent results at the highest level. Much of it rested on the unpleasing awkward style; combined with his unforgiving persistence and an ability muster every ounce of power he could into his punches - round after round.

    As has been alluded to by others, Wilder seems only to seek the one big shot to win by KO/TKO. I don't really see him employ a method of achieving that; more that he carries the power to make the best of an opportunity - but, that's not enough to consistently win at the highest level, in my opinion.
     
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  7. Contro

    Contro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think fury's power is underrated.
    He rocked Wilder on more than one occasion but he never went after him like Ortiz did for obvious reasons.


    Wilder wasn't "in trouble" but he felt those shots despite fury not really sitting down on most of them
     
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  8. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    Definitely. He's a very big man who knows how to punch. His rights have plenty of zip when he sits down and shifts his weight.

    I suppose the top 180lb fighters of the past would most likely just walk right through them unbothered though...
     
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  9. The Undefeated Lachbuster

    The Undefeated Lachbuster On the Italian agenda Full Member

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    Yep, just like how some would walk through the punches of other giants. Also Fury's power isn't underrated. He's never knocked anyone out worth note, he doesn't even hit as hard as Primo Carnera or Buddy Baer, who are of similar size.
     
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  10. tommytheduke

    tommytheduke Active Member Full Member

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    I see him as a poor man's Riddick Bowe with the right hand of a Frank Bruno.
     
  11. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A scaled up Tommy Hearns who started too late.
     
  12. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some other Deontay Wilder parallels:

    Deontay Wilder and Joe Louis - both were born in the United States.
    Deontay Wilder and Muhammad Ali - both have ancestors born in Africa.
    Deontay Wilder and Jack Dempsey - neither has a win over Tyson Fury on their record.
    Deontay Wilder and George Foreman - both are over six feet tall.
    Deontay Wilder and Mike Tyson - both weigh over 200 lbs.
    Deontay Wilder and Lennox Lewis - both are currently alive.
     
  13. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    Meet us next when the topic will be The Parallels of Benny Lynch and Tony Galento.
     
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  14. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    Ahhh you've got me stumped there Seamus !They've both got Ns in there surname s ???
     
  15. Wasteman

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    Terrible comparison IMO. Marciano is just about the last HW who comes to mind when thinking about which historical HWs Wilder resembles.

    This said, Marciano Vs Wilder would be one hell of an entertaining fight for the few short rounds it would last.