the path of least resistance

the sanctioning bodies are responsible for enforcing mandatories, not the guys holding their belt, they are also to blame for enforcing fights like Haye-Ruiz, Povetkin-Rahman or Wlad-Leapai, why should a fighter drop their belt just because he was given a BS mandatory to defend? lose the belt and lose the $$$ and bargaining power? BS title defenses are not new in the sport, whas RJJ supposed to drop his WBC belt after Suleiman enforced part-time policeman Richard Fraizer as his #1 mandatory? what about Cleverly's mandatories like Krasniqui? was Clev supposed to drop his belt just because he had to face a guy who didn't deserve a title shot?

 

Who pays the sanctioning bodies?

You really think Wlad would lose one penny of bargaining power if he dropped his piece of plastic?

Everyone in the world knows hes no.1. A cheap belt doesnt change that.

Frankly, yes, if a sanctioning body pits a bum in front of you, you shouldnt let it sully your legacy, especially in you're getting on and dont have much time left.

Wlad is basically wasting 6 months of his advanced career to fight a pickup driver.

 

So Wlad is supposed to drop his WBO piece of plastic just because they gave him a **** mandatory? It's no worse than Povetkin facing a Rahman who could barely walk into the ring or Haye being forced to face the corpse of Ruiz, Leapai is his #1 mando because he beat Boytsov, blowing up Sauerland's plans, hopefully we see Pulev, Fury/Chisora/ then winner of Wilder/Stiverne-Arreola winner, and then Wlado reitres, because he has nothing more to prove

 

Ain't about bargaining power its about legacy. If Wlad has the belts, all roads lead to Wlad....get it?

 

You think Belts make the legacy??

Floyd and Masnny pacquiao drop and pick belts up as they go and no one cares.

Everyone in the world knew Hatton-Pacquiao was to see who the man at 140 was and the title it was for??? The friggin IBO title.

Ward basically holds an honorary title but try explaining to me how hes not the man at 168.

Belts.Mean.Nothing.

The man makes the belts, not the other way around.

 

Ummm do you ppl not remember the bums being fed to Morrison, Lewis, Moorer, Holyfield, etc.....

Leapei is like Norton resumewise.


two recognizable names to research.

Bob Mavrovic
Vaughn Bean

neither of these guys beat anyone as good as Owen Beck.nono:nono

 

Bert Cooper, Davarryl Williamson. also fought for the IBF belt along with Bean.

Michael Bennt, Charles Shufford, Ed Mahone, Willi Fischer, Damon Reed Scott Welch, and all those after Mercer gave WBO some legitimacy.

Audley Harrison, Wawrzyk, Hasbeen Rahman, Owen Beck, Joe Hipp( Chauncey Welliver's clone), Jesse Fergusen, Carl Williams.


Derek Chisora, Manny Charr, Sosnoski, Okello Peter, Zaljko Mavrovic, Tony Tubbs.


No one on this forum dislikes Wilder as much as I do, but ppl need to quit acting like he garbage. If he were, he wouldnt have beaten Firtha, and even a shot Liakovich woulda took him out in a couple rds. :yep

Arreola and Stiverne will likely put the Wilder hype down for a while, then hopefully, Wilder can get with a GOOD team, and learn some intagibles, and maybe become a solid HW titlist in the post K2 era.:think

 

I find this to be amazing. You see all the time on this forum people complaining about Wilder not fighting anyone and how titles are meaningless. Now that Wilder is going to fight a highly rated HW, people are complaining because it's for a title; a title that is supposedly meaningless.

 

When was the last time a Heavyweight reached 31-0-0-0 (KO 31), 100% KO

Yes, nobody except Wilder...now finish your bottle quietly in a dark hole :|

 

The title that he is going for is meaningless. Luckily for bum god Wilder the WBC isn't about unification so even if he manages to win it (I doubt) the thread title is appropriate.

And for what it's worth, Leapai would be the best fighter Wilder would have faced if they fought so I don't agree with people slaggin Wlad over it to somehow justify Wilder getting a title shot from One'n'Done Scott.

 

Isn't Mayweather a unified WBA/WBC champ at JMW? Isn't he attempting to do the same at WW in a month? So it is possible to unify a WBC belt.

That's great, I never said anything about Lepai or Wlad. My point is very simple, it's ridiculous that Wilder has garnered so much criticism for not fighting anyone, and is now getting criticized for actually fighting a highly rated HW.

 

No arguments from me on that one. So true!

 

For me, these are the only genuine challengers over the past 5years:
Wlads:
Chagaev
Chambers
Haye
Thompson
Povetkin

Vitali's:
Gomez
Arreola
Solis
Adamek

Not good when you put it in perspective.

Haye never defended his title against a genuine contender IMO, although he deserved his WBA shot.

 

Yes it is possible but difficult. WBC has rejected previous fights over that reason.
All good man, I should have quoted someone else for the second part. Sorry I quoted you on my GB smear campaign. Have a good one.

 

When you are the G.O.A.T. Puncher, every path is a path of no :nono resistance