The path to be the man at 154 goes throgh Maravilla

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  1. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    From the other thread I/we concluded Cotto is considered the man at the Jr.MW division even thogh imo he has not really done much there, he beat a non puncher for the belt then he took care of an inactive Mayorga. I see all these Jr. MW's in the same boat, all very good fighters that aren't facing each other with the Lara Williams exception. Also IMO to be established these guys must beat at least 3 of these top guys. Example if Lara beat Angulo and then K9 he would be the most legit belt holder, but since that ain't happening MARAVILLA is the man to defeat, and don't give me the he's a MW ****, he can come down to jr.


    Agree or Disagree, please break down your opinion:good
     
    artdawg, Jul 16, 2011
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  2. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    cotto can make maravilla come down to 154, he wont do it for anyone else but him,pac or may.
    I think martinez gets chavez in december the winner could face marg/cotto winner at 157 or something ofr the 160 belt.
     
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  3. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    A fight between Cotto and Maravilla would be very interesting, and I think would tell how a rematch with Pac would go at 154.
     
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  4. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    That would be good, cotto vs martinez winner fights pac vs floyd winner at 154:p
     
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  5. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    That would be christmas in the boxing world.
     
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  6. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    Disagree, Martinez is now the MW champ of the world.
     
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  7. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
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  8. Vysotsky

    Vysotsky Boxing Junkie banned

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    Like Cotto is going to fight Martinez when he won't even fight a top 10 guy. Cotto is content living off his name and using his PR following to earn big paychecks fighting the Forman's and Mayorga's. Cotto doesn't deserve to be mentioned in any 154 lb discussion until he faces a live body.
     
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  9. Doc

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    I wish, he no longer rules 154... to do that he must come down and take out Cotto, who IMO doesn't really rule 154 but he is at the top since most everyone else are up and coming guys.
     
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  10. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    Yes, he did take the path of least resistance, I find it hat to belive when I read that Foreman was a fight he was suppose to lose, although Forman was just crowned champ I belive Arum saw it as a win win, foreman wins I have something that hasn't been seen in a while, a Jewish star in boxing, Cotto wins, an already established Champ.
     
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  11. artdawg

    artdawg Grammar butcher beeaTCH Full Member

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    I don't belive there's "the man" at that division yet, although it has some good fighters, its almost like the HW prospects that aren't facing each other, well some have started
     
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  12. I1T2BOX

    I1T2BOX Boxing Addict Full Member

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    nobody at 154 has done anything impressive so why should cotto be excluded gtfo!:roll:
     
    I1T2BOX, Jul 17, 2011
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  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    ...........
     
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  14. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Only reason Maravilla is fighting at 160 was to fight Pavlik and Williams on their terms, so Sergio is still the top 154lber who beat the best 154lber who was Pwilly at the time who was jumping from 147-160 and had impressive wins over Margarito, Verno Philips and a faded Winky. I think Sergio should get back where he belongs in 154 mix. He will get more respect fighting Cotto than Chavez Jr. He also has better chances for a Pacman or Floyd superfight happening. He could stay busy fighting Molina, Lara, Kirkland, Angulo, Ishida, Bundrage, or Vanes wiping out the division earning a fight with the 2 stars.
     
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  15. J.R.

    J.R. No Mames Guey Full Member

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    154 is stacked full of good talent.... the thing is, Martinez would be heavily favored to mop the floor with anyone in and around that division. Such is the talent discrepency between Sergio and every other 154 pounder.
     
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