The People’s Champ: CEJ

If Eubank was world-level, that wouldn't have happened at all. I don't want this to sound like I am roasting Eubank, he can obviously fight, has brought countless British casual fans back over the last few weeks, and is rarely in a dull fight. But to suggest he was anywhere above European-level is just not the case; his losses all prove that.

 

He lost his pen when it came to GGG though.

 

But he never beat anyone at the world level who wasn't completely finished. DeGale was completely spent, so was Groves, and Groves still beat him. His losses to Saunders, Groves, and Smith and a relatively close fight with Connor Benn, who is a limited 147, all show that he's not, and has never been, world-level.

 

Even Tim's biggest detractors wouldn't question his bollocks you clown.

 

DeGale in his prime wins every round against CEJ, whereas Eubank in his prime was in the top 10 at best. Every inch of his career was orchestrated and carefully managed. He was a tough, athletic fighter with a good chin, but lacked the fundamentals to be considered world-class at any stage of his career. Good, but not great, great fighters don't end up legless off Liam Smith and get outboxed by Saunders.

 

It depends on whether we have different definitions; we might agree about Eubank. Generally speaking, I would say:

Elite = P4P/Undisputed/Multi-belt champion
World class = The clear top 2 or 3 in a division - legit individual belt holders (not the IBO)
World level = a legitimate contender who has fought A-grade opposition and put in a good account of himself. Even Eubank's losses have been to fighters I wouldn't put in this category. Groves would've got in there in his prime, but not when he was on his last legs and still managed to outbox him.
European level = between the top 5 and 15, depending on the strength of the weight.

I'm not saying he can't fight, but British domestic fighters are often severely overrated on a world stage, as we saw with Adames vs. Sheeraz. Eubank has no jab, a leaky defense, poor feet, and no ring IQ—you can't be considered world-level with that combination of flaws. At the moment, Lara, Janibek, and Adames are a level above him, and 160 is one of the weakest divisions in the sport.

 

Completely agree with this.

You can tell from Eubank’s fight with DeGale that if that had been a closer to prime DeGale in there who wasn’t pulling his punches due to being shot, that DeGale would have won.

And that is Eubank’s career best win.

However having said all that the boxing world will be forever grateful for what he did to Eggman Benn in those last 3 rounds, and how he right royally penetrated Hearn in the pre fight press conferences. He should be most proud of that instead of the DeGale win.