The Perfect Heavyweight Fighting Machine...

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by mrkoolkevin, Apr 8, 2016.


  1. reznick

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    *Only after 1970
     
  2. swagdelfadeel

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    :huh
     
  3. reznick

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    No. Most of us give Dempsey credit for demolishing a giant.
     
  4. swagdelfadeel

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    :deal
     
  5. janitor

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    Look at this from our perspective.

    People like yourself hang your entire argument upon the benefits of size, then effectively argue that it amounts to nothing, when the size argument favours a fighter from an earlier era.

    You aren’t even subtle enough to tactically give the occasional old timer credit, in order to keep your size argument consistent across eras!
     
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  6. janitor

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    The list of heavyweights that we would pick over a much larger opponent, based solely on class, is actually pretty short.

    The list of heavyweights that you would pick over a much better opponent, based solely on size, seems to be fairly extensive.
     
  7. reznick

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    Well...you did make this thread.
     
  8. janitor

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    That does seem to be one point of contention.
     
  9. swagdelfadeel

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    No you idiot, the point is, if size was really as much of an issue to Louis as you make it out to be, Louis wouldn't have beaten the 260 pound max Baer, 256 pound buddy baer, among others.
     
  10. swagdelfadeel

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    :lol: :yep :deal
     
  11. mrkoolkevin

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    You're really dense, aren't you? Read this next sentence extra slowly: Size is not everything but skilled, athletically talented big men can be very difficult head to head matchups for smaller men. Now read it again. Any questions?
     
  12. mrkoolkevin

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    I don't say this lightly but if you don't understand the difference between Lennox Lewis and Max Baer or between Rid**** Bowe and Buddy Baer, then ydksab.
     
  13. reznick

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    Yeah but he got punched by Conn, so it's a wash.
     
  14. reznick

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    Absolutely. But when those smaller men are people like Dempsey, Louis, or Marciano....


    Plus, Carnera definitely fits your criteria. And he's from the 30's.
     
  15. mrkoolkevin

    mrkoolkevin Never wrestle with pigs or argue with fools Full Member

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    No, I disagree with those of you who exalt Carnera as a talented, skilled super heavy. Sure, he's not as bad as he's made out to be but his skills are rudimentary compared to the top big men of the past 30 years.