The perfect style to defeat Floyd is speed and height.

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  1. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i still say Cory Spinks is the hardest fight for PBF...he's taller, just as fast at 154, and is a good technician...i still want to see this fight...
     
  2. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    man i dont see no one trick poneys beating pbf.if you only do one thing well then you are not going to beat him.i dont care if you are strong or fast or high volume puncher.

    its going to take a versatile fighter to beat him, one complete boxer can beat another.alot of these boxers he is fighting and is going to can only do one thing well and thats what i mean by a one trick poney.

    someone gone have to slug and box.inside and outside.they should have some great defense as well and there own speed.pbf can do a little bit of everthing and thats what it will take to beat him, someone who can do a little bit of everthing.

    not even a little bit it will take a lot of bit of everthing to really beat him.there are styles that might make a fight look close but to really beat him and do it soundly you will have to be a complete fighter like him.
     
  3. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree platinum. That's why I think Cotto can do it. people keep saying Cotto is one-dimensional, but he isnt. Obviously he is a great combination puncher who has strength/power in both hands. But he also has quick hands, he is a very underrated boxer who cuts off the ring well, and he also has underrated defense. I'd say outside of an aging Mosley, Cotto is the most complete fighter in the welterweight divsion not named Floyd Mayweather.
     
  4. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    As far as styles are concerned, it would be an intriguing match up if he fought forrest, but as far as legacy is concerned it would do nothing if he fought Williams for Forrest right now. The only fight that needs to be made right now is Floyd vs Cotto/mosley after he beats hatton

    Forrest is another fighter who is past his prime, so if floyd wins, it doesnt matter that much.
     
  5. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    well i respect his power, to me his speed his good.i dont think he is fast i dont think he is slow.the combos he throws are nothing special either.cotto to me is a one trick guy, you know what hes going to do
    the problem is can u stop him from doing it.

    lots of people are comparing hatton to druan but cotto is more like a duran then hatton.cotto vs pbf would be a great fight.i just dont think he has enuff to beat pbf.

    i just think he will crowd pbf like everyone does and swing for the fences.
     
  6. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Platinum I agree with the duran analogy, but let me ask you this. By swinging for the fences, what do you mean. B/c I feel that Cotto would pin FLoyd up into the ropes and bash away at every part of his body. Cotto doesnt care for the face, although you couldnt tell by the way his opponents look after every fight. I think he could hurt floyd to the body, the arms, the shoulders, etc....Cotto doesnt miss when he has people against the ropes. Compubox may not count many of the punches b/c they are not catching body or head, but they are definitely hurting every other part of the body, which would make a huge difference in the later rounds. Can you imagine lifting your arms to punch after having your shoulders being battered for 30 minutes.
     
  7. jlrivera81

    jlrivera81 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also, his combos are not impressive, but they are effective. and you're right, all of his opponents know exactly what he is going to do, but they havent been able to stop him. Can PBF do it. perhaps, we'll wait and see.
     
  8. charlievint

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    I agree!
     
  9. MacManJr.

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    What makes you think Sugar Ray can take any more punishment than Floyd?
     
  10. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good post
     
  11. djrock247

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    You had me second guessing myself for a second there Carlito. I checked on boxrec and apparently PBF's record shows no "L's" anywhere. Perhaps the site you're using has a typo somewhere?
     
  12. MacManJr.

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    :rofl :rofl :rofl
     
  13. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The best style to beat floyd is a strong south paw and hears Why .. every south paw floyd has faced he was force to slug and, the reason I think he was forced to slug is he has issues with south paws, meaning that he can't see every punch coming from that stance namely the right hook that comes out side his vision.
    In each fight he had with a south paw floyd was Always nailed with the right Hook from the south paw stance and nailed solid..

    Floyd almost always bends to his left to get away from his opponents punches namely the the jab and the straight of a conventional fighter ,but against a south paw he doesn't have that luxury because bending to his left puts him directly in the lane of a south paw lead hand and the fact the south paw is moving in that direction.

    floyd is dipping to his left exposing his head from an unseen punch, not only that but the south paw stance takes way from floyd countering with his right hand the same way he does with a convectional fighter.

    In his fights with Zab , Corley and Mitch he chose to slug with these guy in order to keep them in front of him, each time he tried to box these guys he got nailed with the right hook. I think if floyd fought a south paw that would not allow Floyd to be bully them backward as he did Zab , corley and Mitch , Floyd would have major issues.


    just my take on it.
     
  14. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What is your definition of slugging?
     
  15. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do realize you are allowed to make someone miss while slugging right? Why take punches you don't have to take? Floyd stood in front of Zab all night but of course he's not gonna trade punches with him. That would be stupid.