The perfect weight class structure

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  1. uncletermite

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    And again only one guy in the top 20 fights below 220...no fighter is going to drain weight in the HW division!No one even wants to be a HW weighing 210.that doesn't make sense the new weight class in reality should be 225 plus and below that 200 to 224.
     
  2. qwertyblahblah

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    I'm not sure where I stand on a cruiserweight change. There are too many small heavyweights who aren't in fair against the really big boys, and a deeper cruiserweight division would be nice. But because light heavy to cruiser is already a big leap there are going to be lots of cruiserweights who are closer to 190, especially light heavyweights who can no longer make weight.

    I think the rest of the weights are way better than the current weights though. The bigger steps would hopefully keep fighters at their natural weight, and make it a more significant accomplishment when a great fighter does move up. Plus, Cotto and Canelo would have a proper weight class.
     
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    I think if you get rid of the cruiserweight division and just make the Hw division 200/224 snd then add..SHW divison and readjust the LHW division is the best option.....having cruiserweight between lhw and hw is more confusing than anything else....I don't know about anyone else but id rather have all Hw titles ,terminate the cruiserweight division and relable it.
     
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    If we get rid of cruiser the leap from light heavy would be so enormous that it would defeat the purpose of having weight classes. It would be a 190 lb fighter vs a 230 lb fighter, as if there's a weight limit most fighters would dehydrate even a few lbs to make weight. If you want to then adjust light heavy to like 185 that would be too big a leap for middleweights who can't quite make 165. And it would split the heavyweight division right down the middle, making it junior heavyweight and super heavyweight and losing its appeal. Your suggestion I think is pretty wrong on every point.
     
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    I like this man, it's much better than nowadays. No stupid 2 pound divisions in the lower weights either!
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

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    At minimum we've got to have a division under flyweight and a division between light heavy and heavy. There aren't too many men who are closer to 100 than 112 lbs, but at that size it's not fair to those that are to put them at a 10+ lb size disadvantage. And as has been mentioned more often, it's grossly unfair to a 190 lb fighter's health to put him in against 240+ lb heavyweights.

    And the gradations of that 10 aren't quite fair to smaller fighters. A welterweight who outgrows 147 will be undersized moving up 13 lbs, rather than 9 to 156. Especially if we assume fighters are still going to cut down in weight and rehydrate to get an advantage. The original 8 worked only when that division limit was the maximum boxers entered the ring at. 10's better than 17, but I think 12 or 13 makes is fairer for the fighters health than 10.
     
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    that has absolutely nothing to do what I said...end thread I give up...:patsch
     
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    ......:wtf
     
  10. Nonito Smoak

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    The original 8 divisions?

    Do you not agree with them?

    I swear every other time this thread pops up, everybody pretty much agrees at consensus with that.

    I do agree with the other guy that perhaps 105 and 200 might be acceptable.
     
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    You said get rid of cruiserweight here, but I see your posts on another thread now, and that you really meant get rid of what`s now light heavyweight. Your suggestions present more problems and just weren`t thought out very well.

    If 225 is the limit for a division, as fighters who have to make weight will cut weight and rehydrate at least somewhat to get an advantage, the guys fighting in the division could be up to 240 in the ring. That leaves the super heavyweight division as a ghetto for giants and fat slabs. The 225 division as a I mentioned then becomes pointlessly limited, and a very big heavyweight like Povetkin wouldn`t be fighting Klitschko for the divisional championship. There isn`t a problem for which a 220 lb division would be a solution.

    You then suggest 185-200 as light heavyweight. If 200 is the lhw limit that would mean anyone who can`t make 168 could fight not just 200 lb opponents, but opponents that could make 200 and rehydrate to 215. That`s basically the outrageous weight gap I pointed to. You pulled 185 from nowhere but I guess anyone reading that should assume that`s your new smw division. So that moves the outrageous gap down a division, where anyone who can`t make 160 would be fighting opponents who only have to make weight at 185.

    Your suggested divisions, especially a 220 lb class are plainly pointless and wrong.