the phenomenon of being fat and having good stamina in boxing.

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  1. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Anyone care to explain how that works? Particularly in Ruiz's case... You would think someone burns tons of calories and fat when you are in training camp getting your cardio up... So what is Ruiz doing that's prohibiting him from leaning up??? Does he just pig out on burritos when he comes home after his gym sessions??? that's the only explanation I can think of....
     
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  2. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes it is easy to out eat your output for the day. Especially if your nutrition is not on point.
     
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  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Likely
     
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  4. minemax

    minemax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I doubt guys like Ruiz do a lot of cardio... :smile: But their main problem is they need to eat a lot in order not to feel lethargic and completely out of energy.
     
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  5. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    I don't think alot of overweight people are very unfit, but to be that big and be the hw champion of the world is amazing.
     
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  6. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He probably focuses solely on sparring and skips road work. IE.........James Toney, Toney never ran out of gas but he looked like he could only go 4 rounds before going into cardiac arrest.
     
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  7. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Not an isolated case with Ruiz. Counter-intuitive but somewhat common. For instance, Chauncy Welliver always had a strong gas tank.
     
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  8. Hankey89

    Hankey89 Member Full Member

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    Boxing burns 800 calories an hour... Ruiz probably eats 5000 calories a day.
     
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  9. eltirado

    eltirado Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Andy Ruiz ===> Mexican Style & American food
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    Canelo ===> American style & Mexican food
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  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :rolleyes: :duh

    He's in better shape cardio wise than your typical middleweight. He's got 11 points wins all by UD.

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  11. boxer_toxer

    boxer_toxer New Member Full Member

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    He is a natural boxer. He is not there for modeling or fashion show. The man can box. He has skills, he doesn't care how he looks.
    In fact, he got weight in purpose so that AJ can't grab him to avoid his combinations, and it worked very well.
    The fat in your belly apparently has nothing to do with boxing.
     
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    Luis Fernando and surreal deal like this.
  12. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Fat requires less oxygen than muscle.
    In boxing it's better to be fat than overly muscular.
     
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  13. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think you are missing my point. I never said he was a model. I'm asking why the fat isn't burning off from his intense training? Do you understand? I'm not making a case of questioning his physique, I'm asking why his fat isn't burning off if he's training so hard, and able to go 12 rounds and not get gassed. He must be eating 10,000 cals a day. Can't believe nobody has asked him this question
     
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  14. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Honestly I think relaxation is the most important thing in terms of cardio. Keeping calm is key to not blowing out your gas tank. Look at James Toney. Burger King and cigars, but came on late in every fight because he was so relaxed. Controlling yourself and your emotions is key to keeping your heart rate down. For this reason sparring should really be the cornerstone of training.

    Ruiz looked dead calm even after getting leveled be the uppercut/left hook. He never fought any harder than he wanted to. I think it's a big part of why his cardio held out.
     
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  15. Boxcel

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    Likely pigs out on a high fat diet... like burritos. There is very little chance you will maintain weight in camp while eating a clean diet.
     
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