The photo that may put haye in jail

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  1. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Not going away and hitting someone with a bottle and a camera stand is not really self defence...
     
  2. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Are you a lawyer?
     
  3. sunny

    sunny Active Member Full Member

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    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_criminal_law"]"German criminal law[/ame] (§ 33) distinguishes "asthenic affect" (fear) from "sthenic affect" (anger). Excessive self-defense out of asthenic affect is not punishable"

    Haye has already said he had been threatened by Chisora who then approached him took off his jacket and raised his fist
     
  4. Relentless

    Relentless VIP Member banned

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    did haye impregnate your daughter?


    if not can i?
     
  5. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Actually I studied laws and history from 94 to 98 but I work as an accountant now. So you can say that I have some basic knowledge of the german law system ;)
     
  6. Ilesey

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    So you actually believe that Haye will go to jail?
     
  7. sunny

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    basic is about right...

    "Excessive self-defense out of asthenic affect is not punishable" - see above
     
  8. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    No, he was busy doing your mother.

    I just try to get the facts together and what Haye did was much more than pure self defence.
     
  9. the_churn

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    I hate the phrase "black eye for boxing," almost as much as I hate it when an ex fighter gets cancer or whatnot, some idiot always has to bring out the old chestnut, "[insert name here], ex heavyweight champ, is now fighting the biggest fight of his life against [insert disease here]."

    Tiresome.
     
  10. jonsnewflat

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    welcome to the debate
     
  11. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    IF Haye was afraight of Chisora why did he show up at the press conference, badmouth Chisora and just stood there when Chisora confronted him? He could just have retreated from the room but chose to start a brawl by hitting Chisora first with a bottle...
     
  12. Ilesey

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    So, you expected Haye to turn and walk in the other direction when Chisora came down to confront him?

    You do realise Chisora started badmouthing Haye first right? And that Chisora pushed the microphone in his face? And that he walked down with about two other people behind him? And that he has a history of **** like this which was well on display all weekend? This was always going to get ugly. **** poor security should not have allowed these two to get anywhere near each other.
     
  13. sunny

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    won't stand up in court mate - He only has to be afraid in that split second. Chisora marched up to him took off his jacket, got in his face and raised his fist. Quite rightly at that point Haye can claim he thought he was about to be attacked and so he defended himself. Chisora will say he had no intention of starting a physical fight and was just going to square up to him - case closed no further action.
     
  14. sunny

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    lolz - you are welcome to that one mate - I see "Waldo" is also still going strong
     
  15. Serenata

    Serenata Fit und geimpft Full Member

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    Let´s wait and see what happens when this case goes to a german court ;)