The Povetkin that knocked Takam with a single shot vs Joshua and Wilder

Povetkin still kos Deontay 'the Golden Duck' Wilder tomorrow.

 

Joshua literally walks through Povetkin with his hands down, and laughs off Povetkin's punches as they tickle him to death. And asks Povetkin when he's finished, until he puts Povetkin in a coma with a single punch.

 

And old stiffy Stiverne..

 

Bringing PEDvetkin up in hypothetical matches is stupid. May as well ask how Bruce Banner would go against Tyson Fury if he got angry. It's a made up situation which can't and shouldn't happen in a boxing ring.

Wilder and Joshua likely beat a legal Povetkin.

 

Except, Povetkin's height, weight, reach, speed and size remained the same as it always ever had. He didn't turn into a 250+ pound man, fully ripped with muscles and with very little fat like Anthony Joshua or Brock Lesnar, much less Bruce Banner. So that's a flawed comparison!

It's not a made up situation because this nonsense about Povetkin somehow improving that significantly with supposed PED is an utter myth. Otherwise, how do you explain Povetkin still weighing less than Anthony Joshua? Or still having less muscle mass than Anthony Joshua? Or still having the same speed that he always had? Or still having less height and reach than Anthony Joshua and so forth so on?

Your point would be valid if Povetkin randomly turned into a 300+ pound super heavyweight randomly but that's obviously not the case.

 

Im fan of Povetkin but he struggled with Takam until Takam gassed and was like draw on the cards after 9-10 rounds so what are you talking about ?

Povetkin might be bit too old now and he is already too short and not the fastest guy in the world too.Its not easy for him to beat 6`6 + guys with speed,power,good jab and half decent chins.Its just hard for Povetkin to get on the inside to do some work,easily clinched.

 

Yes! Someone agrees with me! Povetkin has been in the same 4kg weight range his entire career. News flash, when Meldonium was legal, ABOUT 75% OF PRO ATHLETES AROUND THE WORLD WERE TAKING IT, IT WAS LEGAL!!

 

You don't need to gain weight in order to get stronger if you're on PED's. Halotestin for example will increase your strength by about 15-30% (depending how strong you already are) after a single cycle without you gaining a single pound of muscle.

 

It wasn't legalised - it came out and there was a period before it was banned for the reasons it was banned, so yes he wasn't using it illegally at the time but it WAS a PED and it is not legal now... hence my comment.

Also, as per other comments - Takam gave PEDvetkin a way more competitive fight than he gave Joshua.

 

Nonsense. You dont have to flat out lie to try to make a point. Meldonuim has been around for nearly 50 years lad, as a medication and a sports supplement. It has always been legal, until very recently, becuase it has about as much as an effect as drinking a cup of coffee. By your definition caffiene is also a PED. There are plenty of very similar performance enhancing substances to meldonuim that are used by virtually every athlete around the world today. To brand Povetkin a drug cheat is ludicrous, and this is why the New York court has agreed with WOB/Povetkin in their court case.

 

Absolutely! Povetkin with less weight, less muscle mass, less height, less reach and arguably less power managed to cleanly KO a prime Carlos Takam.

Meanwhile, Anthony Joshua with much more weight, muscle mass, height and reach failed to come close to even cleanly knocking out an older and a washed up Carlos Takam.

That should tell us all we need to know about just how pathetic Anthony Joshua really is.

 

Povetkin faced a PRIME Takam and put him to sleep = indisputable victory.

Joshua faced a much older and a washed up version of Takam but couldn't finish him off and needed a premature stoppage = not an indisputable victory.

Indisputably victory > disputable victory!

Therefore, Takam was much more competitive against Joshua. Against Povetkin, he was indisputably incapacitated and therefore, the result wasn't in doubt. Whilst against Joshua, the result is in dispute because we don't know what might have happened had the fight continued without the ref prematurely stopping the fight. Takam was landing solid body blows and making Joshua tired. It's entirely possible that Takam could have stopped Joshua by making him tired and unable to continue from fatigue.