The pro game is not the amateurs.

i think it depends more on your fighting style.

 

If Salido knocked Lomachenko out or outclassed him, then I'd say that this statement has a case.

However, the fight was full of controversy working in Salido's favor, such as:

1) Salido coming overweight at the weigh in, then weighing 147 at the fight night, about 2 weight classes heavier than Lomachenko.
2) Salido repeatedly throwing low blows throughout the whole fight without being sanctioned.
3) Instead of Salido, it was Lomachenko who came strong in the later rounds and almost stopped the opponent.
4) The fight was very close with many people scoring it a draw or for Lomachenko (Plus Lomachenko landed more punches and had a higher percentage).

You can throw Loma's clinching in there, but that shouldn't be a counter-argument to the low-blows which had to be sanctioned because it was not gray zone tactics, it was plain and simple breaking the rules. There is a saying that the best referee is the one you don't even notice. I'm pretty sure that since that fight, everybody learned who Lawrence Cole is.

For those reasons, an example of Salido controversially and disputably edging out Loma in close fight doesn't represent an example of top amateur unable to just jump to the pros. Also, Loma became the champion in his 3rd pro fight so yes, he pretty much just jumped to the pros and became the champ.

 

Many of those are true but at the same time I feel like Lomachenko still underperformed even taking all of those things into account, his lack of experience showed.

 

Fair enough, I agree.

 

well, amir khan, has kirkland has, linares

 

Which one of them was KO'd by a pub fighter??

Bredis Prescott has been a fring contender ever since.

Ishida is a former world champion.

What pub fighter KO'd Linares??

You are not comparing like with like

 

Quite a lot of the podium squad are entered into the ABA's now.

 

Exactly right. Brook won the ABA's and the Ingle's got him to go pro so they didn't lose him to the GB squad.

Heffron did also win the ABA's, no senior international titles as far as I am aware, but was not exactly an amateur star.

I personally would expect any Olympic class amateur who turns pro and remains as dedicated as they were in the amateurs to compete at world level.

 

Lomachenko didn't need to learn any of that he just needed to learn how to pace himself over 12.

 

Well I definitely agree that success in the amateurs doesn't necessarily mean success in the pros. Especially the amateurs as they were only a few years ago, before the recent rule changes which eliminated head gear and switched to a 10-point scoring system. With these rule changes, it has become a bit more like the pros and that's a good thing. I think they should also get rid of the amateur gloves and increase the number of rounds.

 

If you look at a lot of great champions - Ali, Fraizer, Foreman, Lewis, Klitschko, Roy Jones Jr Leonard, Golovkin, Ward, Holyfield, Whitikar these were all Olympic champions or medalists. The list could go on all day.

A lot of people like Holmes and Tyson probably would have done well at Olympic medals if they had stayed amateur longer just like a lot of great amateurs like Stevenson and Savon as well as the many great Russian amateurs would have been great pro's if they were allowed to turn over in that era.

You just have to look at how much boxing has changed now the former Soviet countries are allowed to turn pro.

 

first off calling ishida a champion is an insult to paper. and secondly and featherfisted and the guy damien fought was an ixperienced kickboxer

 

ward, medalist, mayweather robbed dela hoya,

 

I'm not one to usually moan about refs but what was the point in having one in the Lomo fight? If anyone got dominated by Salido it was him.

 

wow, good for him. Hes a good muai Thai fighter.

He also has a split decision win from 6 months ago over some nobody who is nearly 50.

Ishida is on a COMPLETELY different level of ability to someone like that guy.

As for featherfisted, Hooper was his first KO.

Why are you pushing this point?? Hooper got knocked into next week by a complete journeyman. Whats so hard to accept?