The problem is...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JoeAverage, Mar 27, 2010.


  1. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That Dirrell ducks VERY low is all his fights. He even throws himself on the ground when the slighest in danger...

    And he has been doing this without getting punished.

    So does that mean that his opponents cannot punch him when he choses that they cannot? He just 'slips' - and that means they cannot do anything?

    Because we all know that the ref would just have called it a slip - and Dirrell would get up laughing...

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    I think that either Dirrell needs a point deducted every time he does this OR the opponents are allowed to keep fighting when he does this.

    It HAS to be one of them.

    PS. "Protect yourself at all times"

    PPS. I think Dirrell came off as a very likable guy and I thought he would win this fight. However, he does some very unfair things - such as slipping to the ground - and gets no deductions.
     
  2. Ilesey

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    He does duck low and I don't think Abraham though "right I'll nail him because he is on the floor and defencless". He was simply trying to catch Dirrell as and when he could. He had to be DQ'd though - no other outcome, even if the whole thing was very theatrical.
     
  3. JoeAverage

    JoeAverage Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think this should happen:

    Dirrell should have a point deducted and be counted over every time he choses to fall to the ground to avoid the opponent.

    And if that happened then Dirrell was being counted over (or would have been briefly thereafter) when AA hit him, and AA should therefore have been DQed.

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    However, Dirrell took a chance off AA by falling to the ground.... and we all know that the ref would not have counted.

    So, if the ref says (indirectly) - "Dirrell is not hit - fight on!" then why can AA not hit him?

    Just like AA complaining that he is hit low. IF the ref doesn't stop the fight it didn't happen and he thereby says "AA not hit low - fight on!" - then Dirrell fights on ... didn't he? So why not AA?

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    So serious problems in this fight.

    But also - let me say that Dirrell was boxing beautifully up until the stoppage. AA was clearly coming on stronger, but Dirrell had a solid lead and more importanlty had grown up as a fighter since the Froch fight. Ran much less - and in terms of personality he came off as very likable. I think he could have a great future for sure - but the throwing himself to the ground issue needs to be sorted out.
     
  4. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thing is, Dirrell didn't just fall to the floor like in the Froch fight. Tonite, he slipped and it happened more than once in the same spot and it was fairly obvious. Abraham didn't even think he did anything wrong. He had plenty of time to pull his punch.

    What is it about the Super 6?
     
  5. Badgeronimous

    Badgeronimous Will you stand? Full Member

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    That's how I see it.

    He had to be DQ'd, you can't really argue against it, but he's got to access the decision in what 0.2/0.3 secs. He's high on adrenaline and pumped. Unless you've been in that situation, well, you don't know what it's like.

    As for Dirrell, he boxed beautifully tonight and fought the perfect fight for beating Abraham. Thought Abraham struggled bad with the Southpaw stance. However, I do agree he did tend to slip when in trouble tonight. 2-3 times it happened.

    I'm just disappointed in how it ended, it was an enjoyable fight, Dirrell boxed brilliantly, but.... you always had the tension of knowing Abraham could end it if he got the chance, and came close a few times. I do think the ref was kind to Dirrell, but he's the home fighter, and well... you expect that. I'm sure if it was in Germany, the ref would be very kind to Abraham.
     
  6. Ilesey

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    Excellent post. :good

    Oh, and :rofl @ your avatar. I listen to that song when I'm bored in work.
     
  7. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Abraham saw that his knee was clearly down, he paused and then decided to sucker punch him, which is the actual real problem. I mean he freakin slipped, he was ducking low on purpose. So many people on this board are freakin clueless....
     
  8. DocLouis

    DocLouis Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed. I wasn't a fan of Dirrell going in, but he definitely earned my respect for the performance he put on tonight. Sad that it had such a strange ending.

    I still don't like his entourage though... wtf were they doing after Dirrell got back up? Why were they crowding him like that and yelling at him? Didn't make much sense.

    Anyway, provided things go forward as planned, I'll be rooting for Dirrell when he fights Ward, although I think that's gonna be the most boring fight of the whole tourney.
     
  9. audio101

    audio101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think he ****in slips on purpose?! Goddamn where do you dumb shits come from? A guy gets seriously hurt buy an illegal punch and you're crying about him slipping.... Exactly how stupid are you?
     
  10. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    I haven't seen you around in a while. Did you only come back to bash Dirrell?
     
  11. MisterSinister

    MisterSinister Member Full Member

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    completely agree
     
  12. GSP

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    load of crap everytime the heat was on direll slipped or went close to the floor absolute ***** thats why he didint get gold in the olympics
     
  13. goldnarms

    goldnarms Active Member Full Member

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    So, you have all these problems with Dirrell, but every time AA gets hit with a good body shot he turns his back and complains to the ref.

    AA knew Dirrell was down. He waits before he even throws the punch. Like he was weighing the pros/cons of throwing it. Perhaps he was the one looking for a way out?
     
  14. lefthook

    lefthook Active Member Full Member

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    So why does he slip 7864327892437892 times every fight??
     
  15. NickBarker

    NickBarker Damnum Absque Injuria Full Member

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    I'll concede that it was a problem in the Froch fight, but the two main ones in this contest were precipitated by the logo and water in Abraham's corner and not so much Dirrell's movement.