The problem with the DQ

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Jack, Mar 28, 2010.


  1. Prescott_Fan

    Prescott_Fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It was significantly different in a number of ways, Lorenzo was going down from a flurry of legitimate punches and one grazed the back of his head just as he had dropped to his knees, it was nowhere near as clear cut that a clean punch was landed at the point the fighter was down. I don't think a case can really be made for Dirrell having play acted last night, but Lorenzo had his wits about him fine and was able to complain about being hit whilst down on the back of the head. Furthermore, Cortez had been slow to step in which added to the controversy. There really aren't many parallels between that incident and the one from last night.
     
  2. NOTINDAFACE

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    Direll got either a very weak chin ore he faked because he know he would get KTFO.
     
  3. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    At the time. I didn't. I felt Soto barely connected, and that Lorenzo could've continued. I don't think AD was in a position to continue last night.
    This is still a consisitent position. I believed one fighter was able to continue, thus rendering the DQ result incorrect, and the other unable, thus renderind tyhe DQ verdict justified.
     
  4. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    :patsch You have to have a very weak chin to get obliterated by Arthur Abraham as you're completely and utterly defenseless now? Where the hell are you getting this ****, noob?
     
  5. NOTINDAFACE

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    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uF6pH7GS2g"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uF6pH7GS2g[/ame]
     
  6. VARG

    VARG Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Conversely to that Soto/Lorenzo point...You have Roy Jones beating Montell Griffin pretty soundly and then BAM DQ'd thereafter.
     
  7. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    If you don't DQ people who knock out opponents when they are down then it will be seen as a punch worth throwing to people who know they are behind on points and need a KO to win.
     
  8. NOTINDAFACE

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    Where i get this from? Maybe because he runs like a ***** when he fights a heavy hitter, at that punch yesterday was not a good punch from Arthur . That is why im saying that he got a wean chin or is a little ***** and faked just so he could QUIT:yep
     
  9. VARG

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    Actually he stood his ground for the first 4 rounds. He typically runs when he's out of gas.

    And to say he's a ***** quitter makes you an ignorant arm chair boxing fan that's never been ringside or IN AN ACTUAL RING to understand what it means to be stunned, hurt, KTFO or personally watch someone go through that. Dirrell by no means faked that ****. Watch your video. He slumped over in just under a second.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But it's not fair that a guy who is clearly ahead on points and accidentally hits a downed opponent gets DQed.

    This is the problem I have. Applying universal rules doesn't work.
     
  11. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes. Yes it is fair. It may be unfortunate in some cases, but that's the only way it can be. You can't deny a fighter the opportunity to win, even if they are the definition of feather fisted and have next to no chance of turning the fight around in their favour.
     
  12. hitman_hatton1

    hitman_hatton1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    obviously the ref has the call.

    and he called a DQ.

    i also thought it was harsh.

    despite the fact it was an obvious foul and deserved pts deduction.

    bare in mind abraham had not fought a dirty fight.

    anyway what's done is done.

    least it never happened in the super 6 final.

    that would have been a bad end. :patsch
     
  13. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well then there's the question of accidental. I don't think it's ever fair to DQ a guy for something accidental, for example, the elbow against Valero. I think the decision to take a point was right, even though it was accidental, but assuming it was later in the fight, Valero was winning and it was fight ending, I think DeMarco would have been disqualified.

    It's this random selection of punishment that bothers me. If Abraham was winning last night, he wouldn't have been DQed, rightly so, but that indicates the foul was bad enough to warrant a DQ in any circumstance. If it was a bite, regardless of how the fight is going, it's a DQ. Then fact Dirrell was winning is the sole reason this fight was stopped.
     
  14. Prescott_Fan

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    That's why you have rematches. It's not like anyone ever discusses RJJ's loss to Griffin as having a detrimental effect on his legacy, given the nature of the loss and the fact he blasted him out in 1 round in the rematch. Whoever said RJJ was winning that fight clearly is wrong though, he was starting to take over and would have stopped Griffin legitimately, but up until that point it had been a tough night's work for him.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    The DQ was fair.

    In fact, I'd like to see more boxers DQ'd for this type of foul.
    I mean, Abraham had a good look at him before he let that punch go, he could see he was down.