The problem with the DQ

What?

 

I stopped reading after a paragraph. Of course it's fair. Abraham made the mistake. So it's his fault he KTFO a defenseless and unexpected of a punch Dirrell. If he got up 5 seconds later and was able to continue he would've been lucky to have a point deduction instead END OF STORY.

Jack, "AA got screwed, Dirrell was faking."

You're a moronic biased Brit.

 

The DQ was fair in this case absolutely.

 

Very fair DQ.

Bottom line is, Abraham screwed Abraham out of getting a chance to finish things in the final 5 minutes. It wasn't out of the question that he would've succeeded in landing the KO, but it's on him that the opportunity got taken away, not Andre. The ref being out of position and being unable to intervene didn't help, but the ultimate responsibility lies on Arthur for the late shot and the DQ was justified.

Hopefully Dirrell doesn't suffer any residual damage from this, either physically or psychologically because he had a number of improvements and good things he can take from this fight for the future. As for Arthur, it's back to the grindstone and we'll find out what his real mettle is vs Froch when we can see how he'll bounce back. Too many people get geeked up over a loss, but it's what happens next that shows me what kind of fighter a guy is.

 

Excellent post.

 

I disagree. I think AA would definitely been DQd even if he was winning. And can you imagine the outcry had it happened? But it would have still been the right call. A guy has no one to blame but himself for what happened last nite. The Valero/DeMarco thing was completely different. DeMarco and Valero's gloves met while both were throwing. The result was purely freakish and no one person;s fault even if DeMarco had a point taken away as per the rules.

Abraham hit his man while he was clearly down, and he had time to pull his punch. He was the SOLE CAUSE of the foul. Not saying he said to himself.... " Im gonna hit the guy while he's down and hope I get away with it" ..... I don't think that intent was there, but he made a crucial error in the heat of the moment and it cost him.

 

Then why would anyone want to continue?

If he is unable to continue then he wins, therefore it would be ilogical to want to continue.

 

Agreed. I don't think Dirrell was faking it but it really doesn't matter. Abraham committed a serious foul. He hit Dirrell while Dirrell was on the ground. Abraham should have been disqualified regardless of Dirrell's condition.

 

That's why you don't smash dudes in the face when their down, especially when you didn't put them down yourself. You'll get DQ'd if you punch a dude that's slipped to his knees.

 

It's a tough situation but wasn't Abraham in kill mode? I think he would have had him.

 

I thought the punch wasn't that bad to be honest.....until i saw the replay...that was a massive shot on the ground and it was a DQ only b/c Dirrell couldn't continue.

 

noob/troll

 

So, you mean that if the fighter is winning then intentonally or inadvertently hit a down fighter and gets disqualified, it is not fair? Because he was winning?

Then you must feel bad for RJJ against Montell griffin for throwing an extra punch after he KDed Griffin.

It is just the rule to protect fighters otherwise if it is just an automatic point deduction, then it would become so common. What then prevents a fighter from pushing someone down then throwing a punch after. That would probably warrant a 2 point deduction but your opponent would be defenseless the next round.

 

I've said in many posts that I didnt think Dirrell was acting. Now I have seen it on TV where they did a super up close and psychological analysis. The experts all said that Dirrell played unconscious like a kid would if you asked a kid to play unconscious. The kid would lift the hands to the head and fall over on the side like Dirrell did.

This is not how it would be if he was really out. Then the reaction would come much faster. He would slump over, and maybe fall to one side but everything would look very different.

Imo. However, Dirrell's acting doesn't change much. The DQ itself was necessary. The real problem was in the corrupt referee Lawrence Cole, and the signs he sent to the fighters... that they should keep fighting until he said otherwise. Abraham complained many times for low blows and the ref allowed Dirrell to keep fighting even when Arthur was hurt from these. So it is understandable that Abraham felt why shouldnt he be able to keep fighting too.

The ref had the line "protect yourself at all times..............................., Abraham! - for you Dirrell, I will protect you".

Sad ending for both fighters.

 

The Dq was FAIR. Dirrell was beating Abraham soudley, case dismissed.