The problems with creating a Super Heavyweight division.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robney, Oct 9, 2013.


  1. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Anyone who wants MORE Divisions in Boxing is an idiot. We need LESS Divisions need to go back to the original 8. Would really clean up the sport.
     
  2. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Voted no, but I do like the idea of a tinkering with the weights between LH and CW and HW to make it a lil more sensible.
     
  3. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    Most here seem to agree on that part, but nobody seems to wanna defend their stance on why there should be such a division... I'm pretty sure there were more as 2 guys here that strongly agreed that it was necessary.
     
  4. Momus

    Momus Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There's an argument for including SMW in that. There is a jump of 8lbs from MW to SMW, and then only 7lbs to LHW before the big leap to CW. The three weights from MW to HW should really be better spaced out.

    There would be resistance to any change in the LHW limit, simply on the basis that it is a traditional weight class and the limits have been set in stone for a century.
     
  5. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    NO, there are many "super heavyweights" that will lose to "ordinary" heavyweights, skill is what separates Vitali and Wlad from the others, the fact they let Wlad clinch as much as he wants is terrible because he has skills to win without being allowed to clinch non stop, every non biased fan knows its illegal!!!
     
  6. daprofessor

    daprofessor da legendary professor Full Member

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    why don't we start letting them wear ***** bar headgear and 20 oz gloves while we're at it.

    fookin puhcees. smh.
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    SHW? I don't think it is worth establishing it's own division for a handful of behemoths. There'd be no fights after a few months. Or at least pseudo- competitive fights.
     
  8. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    Good post Robney and no, I am firmly against a superheavyweight division. Bad for boxing and wouldn't work like others think it would.
     
  9. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Seems they would have to either 1) disrupt the traditional weight classes of MW and LHW by changing the weights, or 2) Add a weight class. Pick your poison.

    I guess faced with those choices, I'd add a weight class at 190. Bump CW up to 210.
     
  10. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, the problem is that Wladimir is just to good for this division at the moment. The only one that can challenge Wladimir and make it competetive would be David haye, if he manages to get to the inside.
     
  11. Mr Pibb

    Mr Pibb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The superheavyweight division would only consist of 5 fighters.
     
  12. freedom2013

    freedom2013 Boxing Junkie banned

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    There's too many divisions now. I'd like to see 9 divisions, something like:

    flyweight: 110
    bantamweight: 118
    featherweight: 126
    lightweight: 135
    welterweight: 147
    light-middleweight: 160
    middleweight: 175
    light heavyweight: 200
    heavyweight: 200 +

    If the media would pay more attention to the cruiserweight division, a lot of people like Adamek, Boytsov and Povetkin might be fighting in that division.

    Eddie Chambers said he never had a problem making 200, he fought at HW for bigger paydays. Adamek has said the same.
     
  13. JASPER

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    :deal
     
  14. Robney

    Robney ᴻᴼ ᴸᴼᴻᴳᴲᴿ ᴲ۷ᴵᴸ

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    There's still only one who went for the "YES. And I have a good reason that I will state below." option, but I can't find it anywhere...

    thechosen1, would you please be so kind posting that good reason of yours? :blood
     
  15. HerolGee

    HerolGee Loyal Member banned Full Member

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    shifting up all upper weight classes slightly to accommodate the higher average height and weight that people are today is not a bad idea.


    After all previous weight divisions are based on historical averages and these have changed.

    Denigration of existing accomplishments is a possible problem with this.