* Lets just get this out the way real quick. The Mexican style act is just a gimmick to sell tickets. There's no way he would slug it out with everyone as he steps up the competition. Nitpicking on his offensive faults (not that there's a lot to pick on) you have to mention how he throws every punch at the same speed and never changes up the speed of jabs or power punches. If a fighter is skilled and not scared he can definitely lock down the timing and Pull counter right of his slow jab. Lets talk disarming GGG stiff, slow jab! here's a list of active fighters from middle weight to super middle weight that (May) be able to disarm his jab with a pull counter Degale, Dirrell, Ward, Canleo did I leave anyone out? Kid Chocolate maybe?
Golovkin is the best middleweight in the world today....................his jab was fantastic, he has extremely hard punches, the right, left hook, uppercut, body punches, great defense, great chin, etc., remember, Golovkin was Cotto's mandatory and had to pay Golovkin step aside money, Golovkin will knock out the winner of Cotto/Alvarez, Golovkin is just too skilled........................
What you're saying about Golovkin not varying his speed is not something that I've noticed. That's not a disagreement with you, I'm just saying it's nothing I've noticed. I'll keep an eye out for that when I watch him again and think about it. The first four guys you mentioned can adapt but when I think of Quillin I don't think of a guy that makes those kinds of adjustments normally. I think Golovkin brutalizes him without much problem even.
Definitely disagreed, but Golovkin's jab was working very efficiently against the limited Lemieux. His jab is effective, and like you said, in terms of speed, he's closer to Maskaev than Holmes. But I do think he tends to telegraph it at times. Just didn't matter against someone like Lemieux.
Changing his speed is actually one of the things that sets GGG apart from the rest. He's like Margarito, but with Mayweather's ring IQ. And GGG counters as well as Floyd too, he'd eat Floyd's pull right counter to land one of his own. It is well known either a great jabber or a great pressure fighter gives Floyd's the most problems. GGG is both! Even in the same weight division GGG would be a nightmare for him.
GGG is genuinely a potential ATG, he is the real deal. No amount of nitpicking on some obscure forum is going to change that No fighter is perfect, you can argue he is does not have fast hands but when you have great timing, power and accuracy then you don't need to be a speed demon. Great Chin Great Jab Power In Every punch variation High Ring IQ Great pressure fighter Great defensive reflexes I can't see anyone beating this guy any time soon and I don't normally get excited by too many fighters today but never seen a boxer this good since maybe Ivan Drago
Disagree on the pressure fighter giving Floyd problems, he feasted on pressure fighters his whole career, agree with the Jab part though. GGG's size height and Jab are what makes me think he would have a chance against Mayweather. But then he is just too big for May. He also hasn't been tested to the point of having to make adjustments as of yet, so not sure what adjustment he would make once Floyd took the Jab away.
Pull counter doesn't work on a power jab like GGG. Pull counter is what you use to counter a jab inbetween a 1-2. You can't pull counter a guy stepping in to his jab. The way to counter a power jab like GGG's is to roll under and counter with a overhand right(see Hopkins vs Pavlik)
The pull counter's effectiveness is greatly diminished if the throwing fighter doesn't take the bait and overextend himself to reach you or drop his hand on the way back. Though it requires reflexes and timing to pull off, it really exploits the jabber's lack of balance moreso than his lack of speed. GGG's balance when throwing is elite; therefore, I don't think that's the right way to address his jab. He's too disciplined with it. If the other man had a significant height and reach advantage, that may increase its effectiveness. There's also the issue of predictability and what happens if the other fighter knows the pull counter is coming and sets you up to throw it. Not necessarily the game you want to play if the person you're fighting has exceptional timing and distance skills and an assload of power. It's a dangerous well to take more than a couple sips from. GGG, despite being labeled a pressure fighter, is an exceptional counterpuncher himself. When he leaves himself open to be countered, it's not due to sloppiness or neglect- he's really setting a trap and hoping the other guy takes the bait.
