The quality of Calzaghes sparring.

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  1. robpalmer135

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  2. dwilson

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    Yep the Yanks know how to do things right while us Brits always look like cavemen.

    The only thing JC has going for him in this fight is his natural talent. He gets ****ed over in every other department.
     
  3. Tony Harrison

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    Sadly true. I've been backing Calzaghe from the start but am leaning toward Hopkins now.

    Hopkins will have some sort of plan for this fight with various contingencies in place while Enzo C has been talking nothing but bollocks about knowing how to beat Hopkins by watching a couple of tapes.

    All this could be the deciding factor in a fight between two evenly matched fighters. In these fights any advantage is important and B-Hop seems to have a few!
     
  4. ghostlybadge

    ghostlybadge Punch Drunk Full Member

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    Nathan Cleverly has good power. having BP there would be better so he can keep rotating them to keep the work rate up. neither nathan or bradly can go aslong as JC.

    JC has talent coming out of every hole on his body. i would have liked to see them bring in a top LH so sit there and just counter with straight rights which is all i can see BHOP doing all night.

    we will see how well his sparing and prep has gone next week
     
  5. mstar

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    it is a worry i was worried what sparring joe is doing... but i remember joe saying with his hand injurys he does a lot less sparring these days anyway. He works more on combinations, defence and conditioning. he never did lots of sparring even in the old days. he is a rare fighter (which is what makes him so special i guess) is that he adjusts in the ring to whatever game plan the other boxer has -you just cannot teach that to a boxer its just a natural way of fighting. Bhop prefers coming in with a game plan(s). JC always said u can study a fighter how he throws left,right etc but ultimatly on fight night he will be completely different, as he never fiaght against you. Having a set way/predertimed plan is not the best way particulary at the highest level boxers adjust to what there previous fights anyway. This is also the way Floyd fights he likes to adjust in the ring to whatever new plan boxer/trainer bring on fight night
     
  6. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    I recall Calzaghe saying after the Bika fight that he went into that bout with no real sparring beforehand.
     
  7. mstar

    mstar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    thats correct your right, he concentrated on fitness and speed, and he mentioned he was never upfor that fight and just wanted it out of the way. The lacy fight he had little/no sparring due to his hand injury so he just shadow boxed concentrating on defence and combinations, and just going through his head the adjustments he would need to do against a puncher, i think i am right in saying he only watched lacy once against reid i think i recall
     
  8. robpalmer135

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    Saying that Enzo does not have a plan b is not correct. Both fighters biggest strentgh is being able to adapt to any style and i still beleive Enzo plays a big part in that.

    also bika is not hopkins lol
     
  9. BIG WORM

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    calzaghes not gonna forget how to fight is he
     
  10. mstar

    mstar Well-Known Member Full Member

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    well if a boxer has a system they feel comfortale with then fine, i think JC's method is better then say hattons who with billy graham have set game plan against opponents and bring ina flood of sparring partners. But problem with that method is... well just look at the mayweather fight hatton could not adjust being outboxed inside and ref not letting his fight inside. also how can you find a boxer worth sparring like mayweather??? same with hopkins hence why calzaghe team not concerned with lack of sparring, as it was never a big importance in the training for a fight anyway. well not saying its the best way but if it works for JC and he believes in it well let it be
     
  11. Tony Harrison

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    Indeed the Calzaghe method has sufficed so far but I fear Hopkins may require a more studious approach. In the Bika and Kessler fights Joe shipped punches (headbutts in the Bika fight) he didn't need to, winning rounds easily boxing behind his super fast jab. I wonder how much influence Enzo has over Joe during fights, he's always screaming at him to calm down but Joe rarely seems to listen. Sparring obviously isn't a big part of Calzaghe's preparation these days so it's nothing new. I just fear that Calzaghe will be outfoxed by the old ****er.
     
  12. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    hopefully Joe becomes the next 2008 loss in the Enzo Calzaghe stable.
     
  13. Max Molyneux

    Max Molyneux Liverpool Liver Tickler Full Member

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    Rees wouldn't of won a world title under another trainer, Enzo gave him the confidence to take advantage of M'Baye's lack of work and who else would of turned Mac Into a jabber?
     
  14. Nemesis

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    Calzaghe has never sparred that much for bouts in the past, so I dont think it will be that much of a problem

    as stated earlier, Hopkins straight rights are the danger as JC has been suscpetible to those punches in the past (Robin Reid, anyone)
     
  15. mstar

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    i agree Nemesis, bhop is i feel going to try to keep the fight in the centre and get inside to rough joe up, problem with that of course getting inside before getting punches which joe will throw. i am really intrigued to see how bhop will get inside as much as he and roach say they will.