The Quality of Marciano's Opponents

Playing Devil's Advocate, Walcott did say that Rock was hard to hit cleanly.

And there's no denying what he did do, and mostly in emphatic fashion.

 

Good post!

 

He said he was hard to hit cleanly with a big punch .There's a difference.
"He wouldn't have made it today,too small for the guys today.and he cut too easily.Smaller men make up for it by being faster,but he wasn't fast,he was clumsy and had bad balance."
Emmanuel Steward.

 

There is a difference. And let it be known, I always liked slipping the big punch rather than the love tap.

Totally agree with Manny, btw. Marciano was an anomaly custom made for the era he came to age in. But you can't take away that he ruled that brief time, and ruled it with utterly brutality. There was no Lennox, no Wlad, no Tyson to argue otherwise.

 

That’s why I rate him higher than I probably should. What he actually DID against the people who were placed in front of his fists cannot be ignored, it must be acknowledged.

 

Lol um you claimed Mike Tyson didn't fight anybody. I told you Tucker was champion. But you could also add Tony Tubbs was a top level guy. Trevor Berbick was champion.

Marciano beat a old Ezzard Charles and you are excited over it.

 

Lol Joe Louis wasn't the best heavyweight of al ltime so Bill Conn didnt almost beat the beast heavyweight of all time. Tommy Farr and Nova were considered bums by the people of that time frame. Just because you claim they weren't it meant something?

If you think Pastor, Bivins, Conn, or Loughran would of beat Ali, Foreman, Lennx Lewis, Wladimir Klitschko, Mike Tyson , Larry Holmes etc then I can't take anything you say serious anymore.

Lol Deonday Wilder is a bum, everybody knows he is a bum. But guess what? Wilder beat bums who weighed over 200 pounds. Most of the bums Louis fought were sub 200 pounds.

You want more funny? Every person Wilder faced doing his title reign were ranked in the top 10/20. Does it mean anything? Somebody has to be ranked.

 

Charles was still old, Charles was still a natural 160 to 175 pound guy. Bob Satterfield was what 32 and 14 when Charles faced him. Satterfield was nothing special and got knocked out all the time. Wallace beat nobody as a pro. So being ranked means nothing because somebody has to ranked.

So Marciano's best wins were against a old Charles, old Archie Moore, a old Jersey Joe Walcott, and a old Joe Louis. Then you had the fact that Marciano got a gift decision against 180 pound Roland LaStarza, and 170 pound Ted Lowry who almost knocked Marcinao out and you realize Marciano's resume was extremely weak and even for 180 pound standards Marciano is overrated never mind for heavyweight standards since Marciano would be a small cruiser weight or slightly above average light heavyweight if he fought today

 

They weren't. Tommy Farr was the UK title holder and Nova was the number 1 contender, and who most people thought would be the biggest threat to Louis. Both of these men would be alphabet champions in the modern day. There were no respectable reporters who called these two guys bums and you can't find a quote from a newspaper of the era to support your claim. You call them that and try to present it as fact thinking folks in this forum are dumb enough to let you run your diarrhea of the mouth unchecked.

I never said that. Argue with me and not a figment of your imagination.

Those sub 200 lbs guys were beating guys much heavier than them. Chuck Crowell was 212 lbs 6"5, Pastor knocked him out in one round. Loughran defeated 255 lbs 6"7.5 Ray Impelletiere. Of course these are not great wins, and they were not considered notable at the time either because people knew what mattered most is who you beat, not how much they weighed past the HW limit.

They weren't. I checked.