The Quality of Marciano's Opponents

FYI this is what happens when u hold their ******ed Marciano standards to other fighters. You find nobody actually adds up to ur own criticisms

 

Wait, did you mention the phrase "washed-up".

Self-awareness score: 0

 

Whitehurst was trying to get back in the ring when the final bell saved him from a ko.Whitehurst was on his feet when the referee stopped the fight those are facts.

 

Do you think Moore hit as hard as Wilder?
Yes?
No?
Is Wilder an elite puncher at heavyweight? Yes? No?

Is Moore an elite puncher at heavyweight? Yes? No?

Two simple questions requiring 2 simple answers

 

NO! Moore is not being trashed!
What is happening is his power at heavyweight is being evaluated.
One poster Gazelle says he was an elite puncher at heavyweight.
And one poster,Me says he was not!
Now is your chance to make your mark!
Q.Was Moore an elite puncher at heavyweight?
Yes?
No?

Q.Have you ever seen a list rating the biggest heavyweight punchers of al time that has Archie Moore on it?
Yes?
No?

Please answer this simple question?

 

There is no close in Boxing. It means nothing. Not sure y u can’t just say Moore had power at HW. Not only did he have power but he knew how to deliver it. Which makes him more superior of a puncher then Williams Shavers or Wilder. Which is y he had better knock out victories then all those men. Obviously he didn’t one punch as well as those men (how many did?) but being able to deliver it via boxing ability like Walcott, Moore or Louis is more dangerous. Let me ask you an honest question as I’m not sure how u will answer. Who’s a more dangerous puncher Max Schmeling or Tony Galento? I would pick Schmeling personally

 

This is a trick question. Moore is always on lists of greatest punchers but most historians put him at lhw. They don’t realize he had like 64 fights or something at hw. We’ve already named a plethora of name Hws that were knocked out by Moore. Can u please name me all the great names knocked out by Williams and Wilder (I’ll give u both men) and tell me whose list is better?

 

That was not my statement I said he stopped ONE RING RANKED OPPONENT
Lavorante who was on his feet and rescued by the referee.
" Had been," " would be".

BUT WEREN'T RING RATED WHEN THEY FOUGHT MOORE. = SIMPLE STATEMENT OF FACT

 

No! I'ts a plain and simple question.
WAS MOORE AN ELITE PUNCHER AT HEAVY WEIGHT?
IS HE ON ANY LISTS AS AN ELITE PUNCHER AT HEAVYWEIGHT?
"Most historians don't realise Moore had 64 fights at Heavyweight?"
Don't they?
Who says they don't, you?
Williams and Wilder are not the subject under discussion.

Want to compare their power? Williams and Wilder are on all recent lists as elite heavyweight punchers Moore is on NONE.
Neither was Moore on any earlier lists as an all time elite heavyweight puncher,if you dispute this POST ONE!
Now will you please answer my question ?

 

NONE of these others names are under evaluation as heavyweight punchers the subject under discussion is Moore's heavyweight power NOBODY ELSE'S

Not sure why you deliberately and willfully keep stating I'm saying Moore did not have power , point out where I have ever said that? Can you not just face the truth? That you over-hyped Moore as a heavyweight puncher when you described him as an elite puncher ,because at heavyweight he was NOT!
Now please also stop trying to muddy the waters by talking about who was the more effective at delivering their power,that is a separate issue.

Moore was more effective at delivering his power than Max Baer,did he hit as hard as Max? NO!

Schmeling is my answer.
Now I've answered your question, but you still haven't answered mine,will you now do so? Or will you go off on another irrelevant tangent?

 

It’s a simple question of who’s more dangerous puncher and ur diverting. I asked u to combine the career of these men to give me some actual names worth mentioning and u can’t. So what they knocked out nobodies. Moore knocked out consistently hall of fame men. As I stated everyone puts Moore in the category of LHW that is a fact. But he had plenty of carryover power. So I’ll ask the quartile again who’s the more dangerous puncher Max or Tony? It’s an honest question and I don’t care how u answer. But the truth is power and skill trumps just power any day. Which is y Moore was more successful than some of the dangerous punchers you’ve named. Men like Wilder, Hatchetman, Williams, Galento, Shavers weren’t really all that dangerous. Victories over those men mean less to me then a victory over Archie Moore or Max Schmeling

 

Archie Moore's power is the current subject not Marciano.

 

WE ARE CLOWNS BUT YOU WONT ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS?

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU?

 

You haven’t asked me anything. You’ve only stated u don’t think Moore is elite puncher at HW. We’ve given u a dozen names that r quality and he’s knocked out more to boot, I’ve simply asked u to clarify ur definition of an elite puncher.

The subject involves Marciano opponents which is why Moore’s power is being downgraded. From all time to non existent at HW. You haven’t asked me a specific question. Please ask away

 

STILL WILFULLY MISQUOTING MY WORDS THE UNDERLINED IS A DELIBERATE LIE AND YOU KNOW IT.
I ASKED YOU WAS MOORE AN ELITE PUNCHER AT HEAVYWEIGHT?
YES?
NO?

I ASKED YOU IS HIS NAME ON ANY LIST FOR HEAVYWEIGHT ELITE PUNCHERS?
YES?
NO?

IF YOU HAVENT GOT THE NECESSARY TO ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTIONS YOU REALLY SHOULDNT BE CALLING POSTERS CLOWNS!