The Razor vs Martinez??

He's not obscure, though. He's been the WBO titlist at 154 for five years. He won the title from Daniel Santos and has defended against Sebastian Lujan and Joel Julio. None of those names are obscure. So that pretty much makes him someone you should know if you're coming off as a know-it-all, with bull**** like "Well nobody's ever heard of him, so he's not worth mentioning in the same breath as Martinez" with the unspoken addendum "...because I've seen Martinez twice on HBO so that makes him a somebody!"

 

He's just as obscure as Martinez was before he fought Cintron and Williams. Most non-casual boxing fans should know who he is.

Wait, you know who Cintron is, right?

 

Easy work for the Razor

 

You're not supposed to feed the trolls IB, remember?

 

It could be good fight but Martinez and HBO would prefer rematch with El Cheatador.

 

That's why he didn't respond to you.

 

Dzinzriuk reminds me of a younger Winky Wright. Great jab and a very good, underrated boxer.

 

Why does anyone think this guy could compete with Martinez?

 

Because he's a tall, technically gifted southpaw who's amongst the best in the division? Not saying he necessarily would beat Martinez, but he has as good a chance as any and he's a tough match for anyone at 154.

 

Because in my opinion, he's at least as good as Martinez - he just hasn't had the same exposure yet. I'd definitely favour him to beat Williams and would like to see that fight made.

 

Btw, this inactive and obscure boxer is the WBO champ since 2005, beating Daniel Santos to snatch the belt. Some posters should do their homework.

 

He probably neither fights Williams nor Martinez, since he seems bound to ShoBox, whereas the others have HBO affiliation.

 

I don't know...fighters jump from one network to another all the time. I don't think long-term binding contracts are all that common. Just off the top of my head, Kessler fought twice on HBO, and now he's a Showtime guy (obviously under contract now through at least the end of the Super Six...) - and Tim Bradley did a couple of stints on Showtime before switching the other way.

 

i know who he is. your comment has nothing to do with what i was saying. do your own homework.

anyway, is martinez even fighting at 154 anymore?