The real reason Ali will always be the greatest HW

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    :rofl:rofl
     

  2. Your point?

    Do you know how long it takes for a case to go to the supreme court? Its not an overnight process, and in most cases I've read the incidents took place YEARS before. Nothing unusual avout that what so ever.
     
  3. Rock0052

    Rock0052 Loyal Member Full Member

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    OP made no mention of primes or ages.

    If he had, then Ali's names goes down to Foreman. Liston was old, Frazier was past his best in the 2 rematches.
     
  4. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Weren't there millions of infidels in Vietnam?
     

  5. Did Allah tell Ali to go to Vietnam to fight those infidels?
     
  6. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My point is the SC decision had nothing to do with Ali's decision to refuse to go into the military since it happened years later. Your earlier post referred to the SC decision for a reason that I can't fathom.
     
  7. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yea in his book. He says kill the infidels.
     

  8. Ali refused to be drafted because he was a objector to the war. He was arrested. A jury of his peers found him guilty of draft evasion.

    When you are convicted of a crime, you can appeal. Ali appealed, was denied, then appealed again to the supreme court .

    The supreme court receives literally. hundreds of thousands of appeal request a year; they will only rule on the cases they feel need to be resolved for future case law. They decided Ali's case was significant enough to rule on. When they ruled, all 8 justices overturned Ali's conviction. Why? Because the government was wrong when they arrested Ali for refusing to be conscripted.


    So yes, the Supreme Court decision has EVERYTHING to do with his refusal to be drafted for the Supreme Court validated Ali's refusal to be conscripted; their reasoning was that when Ali was arrested his religious beliefs were not taken into consideration.


    Hopefully this gives you a better understanding of the American court system.
     
  9. So does the bible. Bible also says to stone ***gots. Your point?
     
  10. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Not really aware of much old testament stuff.

    I just know there seems to be an infidel problem in this world right now.
     
  11. cslb

    cslb Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Look dude, I am an attorney. I think I understand the American judicial system just fine. I was also in the military when all this stuff involving Ali was going on so I think I know a little bit more about that than you also. Ali had no idea how it would turn out when he refused induction. He showed courage by refusing to go in even though he was told he would never see action. I spent three years in S.E. Asia and I applauded him for his convictions.
     
  12. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Liston was seen invincible, Fraizer was no more past it than Ali and Foreman was seen invincible as well as much much fresher than Ali.

    Holyfield was prime when he fought both senior citizens.
     
  13. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Lmao. That first sentence I just rolled over laughing.
     
  14. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    You are correct.....Ali should have had his religious beliefs honored, because we all know that Muslims never fight in wars. :patsch
     
  15. lefthandlead

    lefthandlead Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston is so overrated. There are Light Heavyweights that can be him.:deal