The "REAL" Reason Oscar De La Hoya Was Loved...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by walk with me, Apr 16, 2009.


  1. venomus_p4p

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  2. FINITO

    FINITO Boxing Junkie banned

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    I disagree.

    - His movie star looks

    - Gold medal

    - Good story

    A good looking mexican who can fight.. What more can u ask for... That's a perfect cash cow.
     
  3. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    if you thought oscar was a loser then, as someone who rubs up against paul williams 24-7 what does that say about you?

    the only reason you put yourself on the line now is because you're pissed or been on the board too long.

    donjt set up judgments like that because you're getting pissed off with your life.

    its normal when people post on here too much and you just set youself up bigtime.
     
  4. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No, Walk, you're missing it. You, like most guys today, chop Hoya's career in half and look at the latter half and say he lost all his big fights.

    1) Oscar was a huge ko artist.
    2) Oscar did represent his people, despite what some boxing snobs have to say about it. The mexican boxing snobs would say one mexican champ would beat him and oscar would knock him out. It happened over and over. The actual Chicano people of the southwest usa loved the hell out of oscar. He was one of us.
    3)He was vulnerable, this made his fights exciting.
    4) for a looser he won a shitload of titles, never mind the impressive winning streak in which he was undefeated and smashed his way through 135, 130, and 140, before entering Welterweight and winning a close fight to p4p #1 at the time Whitaker. Even at this point he looked much better than Paul Williams, Cotto, or Margarito. And he still had more on his career to go by. Cotto's already been smashed. Margarito's career is over. Williams is yet to be determined. This last point is why Hoya was loved, greater by himself than current generation.
     
  5. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    oscar did lose all his big fights.

    'walk' isnt being dismiisive to say that. thats just the truth.
     
  6. Gatekeeper78

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    I agree with this, but Their are alot of people who didn't like him, one of my friends was a huge Oscar fan untill the Pacquiao weigh in where all of the golden boy fighters and George Lopez disrespected Pacquiao so much.
     
  7. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Old Mosley is in today's market and he really is the biggest thing since sliced bread as far as boxing is concerned. But no one can get as big in the states as the nineties guys because the popular media coverage is no longer there.
     
  8. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Most, no, I would say all of the oscar hate comes from people who don't know who these fighters were. To me that is an obvious fact. They really have absolutely no clue. :-(
     
  9. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History
    Oscar De La Hoya's Pay-Per-View History

    1. Rafael Ruelas (5/95) 330,000 buys = $9.9 million
    2. Genaro Hernandez (9/95) 220,000 buys = $6.6 million
    3. Miguel Angel Gonzalez (1/97) 345,000 buys = $12.1 million
    4. Pernell Whitaker (4/97) 720,000 buys = $28.8 million
    5. Hector Camacho (9/97) 560,000 buys = $22.4 million
    6. Wilfredo Rivera (12/97) 240,000 buys = $9.6 million
    7. Julio Cesar Chavez II ( 9/98 ) 525,000 buys = $23.6 million
    8. Ike Quartey ( 2/99) 570,000 buys =$25.7 million
    9. Felix Trinidad (9/99) 1.4 million buys = $71.4 million
    10. Shane Mosley (6/00) 590,000 buys = $29.5 million
    11. Javier Castillejo (6/01) 400,000 buys = $16.0 million
    12. Fernando Vargas (9/02) 935,000 buys = $47.8 million
    13. Yory Boy Campas (5/03) 350,000 buys = $17.5 million
    14. Shane Mosley II (9/03) 950,000 buys = $48.4 million
    15. Felix Sturm (6/04) 380,000 buys = $19.0 million
    16. Bernard Hopkins (9/04) 1 million buys = $56.0 million
    17. Ricardo Mayorga (5/06) 935,000 buys = $46.3 million
    18. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (5/07) 2.15 million buys = $120.0 million



    if you look at his #'s post tito vs his #'s pre tito.... the trend that is shown in his #'s of fights viewed supports my theory
     
  10. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    wheres everyone at now? since everyone was so quick to call me an idiot.... yet the #'s totally support my theory.... not only that but the tito fight is a perfect barometer because he has had 18 ppv's

    the tito fight was his 9th fight..... so pre tito vs post tito is basically directly in the middle
     
  11. renyo

    renyo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No be smart here what it shows is that he started promoting himself soon after that fight .
    Allowing for much better marketing than Arum who you wouldn't even know a fight was coming up unless you were on a website looking.
    Surely you've heard of Golden Boy Promotions
     
  12. catasyou

    catasyou Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Can I still call you an idiot anyway?
    Pleaseeeeeee!
     
  13. walk with me

    walk with me Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    touche~

    gbp was established in 01' which gave him enough time to set up fight #12.. which is against vargas....

    point to you.... the shane fight still is his 3rd best up until that point though
     
  14. BADINTENTIONS2

    BADINTENTIONS2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    but thats only because you're being an analyst rather than putting your balls on the line.

    you have a history of that and you rely on your online avatar to negate that.

    i've already told you not to do that.
     
  15. IsaL

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    I shouldn't even be wasting my time with you.

    FIRST OFF, the Trinidad vs DLH fight was arguable the BIGGEST fight of the 90's... It gave BOTH Trinidad and DLH much exposure on both coasts and world wide. That translate into more people knowing who DLH was.

    SECONDLY, MOST PEOPLE felt and continue to believe Oscar De La Hoya was a victim of a Don King scheme in that fight, where many feel ODLH comforatbl won 9 rounds to 3 and 8 rounds to 4 at worst. Meaning MOST FELT ODLH WON...WON...WON...not Lost.

    And third, to see why he started making more money, take into account the NAME fighters he was fighting, the publicity for the fights, the fact that he had become a household name, and he had learned the business very well, as opposed to his younger years.

    Tell me, in boxing, which fighter makes more money when he was starting out??

    The theory you have came up with is a very ridiculous and quite frankly stupid theory....

    According to your theory the Forbes fight should have been PPV and should have broken records and if he decides to fight in the near future, he should top Hops-DLH and PBF-DLH right, after all he did recent;y lose...:patsch:patsch:patsch

    Game over, I won. :hi: