The real reason why Calzaghe doesn't want Pavlik

If you can tell me what fight Hopkins has been in ,(with the exception of the Tarver fight) which one of them was not ugly ?But I personally feel the win over Hopkins was monimental .I give him all the respect for coming here and winning ..If Jones does beat him and they turn on him then shame on them !!

I don't suscribe to the new way of thinking these days where if a fighter loses he autoatically is shot or sucks ..I respect what they have done and if they lose well what can you do they all lose eventually..

 

Did you see the posts a while back about RJJ talking about this? A couple of losses in MMA means ****. Yet people on this board want to pretend MMA fans a dumb?

 

Yep, and I would not have LIKED him picking Jones for his next fight but it would have gone down a lot better if he hadn't run his mouth about how he would out class Kelly and it was KELLY that didn't want the fight. Respect lost on this one.

 

:nut

 

Any one with the audacity to think a guy with a 34-0 30KO record could beat a fighter that called him out.. Yep...:nut

 

Kelly Pavlik only became a great fighter after his dominating victory over Gary Lockett.

 

Good post ... it is likely perfectly correct that Joe wants to protect that zero more than anything else as he is so close to the end and still has it ... of course that desire will affect his choice of opponents .. what is best for Joe is what is 'safest' ... Hop only wants 35+ year-old opponents, RJJ is looking for the same which is why he's looking at Joe now (what better than a punchless opponent too?), Joe was only looking at Pavlik because he was a MW and thought that would be safer .. but a firsthand look changed that idea ... at 34ish RJJ fought for the heavyweight title .. at 35 Joe is looking for the 40 year old RJJ ...

RJJ, Hopkins, Toney, Tarver, etc. = elite talent

Joe C = second tier
Kessler = third tier

Lots of fights out there that will expose Joe's (current) limitations ... Dawson, Johnson, George, Tarver, Pavlik, and RJJ

 

Who is George?

 

Basically all American figters are elite and any American fighter could expose JC! Is this the point you really trying to make?

 

It's a well known fact that any semi-competent American could stroll through Calzaghe's pitter-patter slaps and knock him out.

Only a handful of American boxers could not do this, it just so happens that that very short list includes Bernard Hopkins, Jeff Lacy, Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell, Omar Sheika.....

 

Still don't know who 'George' is?

George Foreman? George Formby? George Harrison?

For a couple of seconds I thought it may refer to Shaun George but then realised how ridiculous a thought that was....

 

No way .. we have lots of lousy fighters .. real fighters get in the ring and get tested as young men .. they don't fight one decent fading fighter who gets two weeks notice to lose an extra seven pounds and then nobody for a decade ...

Beyond that .. currently, there are a lot of fighters who are likely to handle or KO Joe because he was always overrated and it is especially clear by watching him fight Grandpa Hopkins .. no way that ability stays undefeated without some very careful matchmaking and/or spending nearly an entire career fighting Euro bums ... Joe would have four or five losses easy if he had plied his trade over here ....

 

Shaun George would destroy Joe if they fought tonight, tomorrow night, or last week .. easy fight to predict .. George is WAY TOO STRONG and ATHLETIC for Paulie Calzaghe.