The REAL Reason why the Heavyweight Division is considered weak

Hypothetically:

Is it because Wlad dominates, and is THAT much better than his opponents physically/athletically, that people consider this era of the heavyweight division weak ? Imagine for an instance Wlad was not in the picture, and Tony the tiger and/or Brewster (and the like) were squaring off, and one of these boxers emerged as the tip of the spear of the heavyweight division; would this man, whoever it was, Brewster, Thompson, Peter, what have you - having beat the rest of the top heavyweights, be considered 'great', and would the heavyweight division be defined DIFFERENTLY in the eyes of boxing writers/fans? Do you think there is a possibility, BECAUSE Wlad is dominating, and looking a tier or three above the rest of the competition, that the heavyweight division is being underrated/downgraded in this day and age?

Just a hypothetical question.

 

When a division has a guy who dominates. It's considered weak. When a division has a bunch of closely rated guys. It's considered strong because one guy can't emerge as the top dog.



Note thats why I always says if Roy had closer fights and didn't completely dominate all his opponents he would be considered greater and wouldn't be considered a cherry picker.

 

its because wlad is the best of an average bunch

wlad wouldnt make it out alive against prime tyson, lewis, holyfield, etc

 

You make a good point.

 

ali was a dominant fighter in his time in arguably the best era of HW boxing. i mean he lost a few here and there but was dominant for the most part

 

I'm not sure if it's happening right now, but it definitely has in the past:

Joe Louis dominated the division from 1937 to 1948 to such a degree that not many fighters really got a chance to establish themselves. Especially from 37-42, before he had to go to war.

Or for instance Ali. He wasn't allowed to fight from 67-70. During that time, Frazier, Quarry and Bonavena made a name for themselves by being in the limelight. If, on the other hand, Ali had fought Frazier in '68, regardless of the outcome, the fight wouldn't have been half as big.

I don't want to compare Peter to Frazier, but if Wlad retired in '04 and came back in '07 to beat an unbeaten Peter, it would've looked more impressive.

 

watch the tyson/buster fight and the lennox/rachman fight

wlad could battle with them

 

A division that is being dominated by a 6'6 athlete with a glass jaw who jabs, holds, and occasionally throws the odd strong right hand is a bad one.

 

The real reason the heavyweight division is considered weak, is the fact the division is weak.

When a glass jaw, no aggression fighter who lacks any mid range or inside game, becomes champion just by jabing and grabbing you know you have a shitty division.

 

wlad may get a good battle with lennox but i think a prime tyson takes him out. tyson was out of shape and not foused when he fought douglas. props to buster for taking him out but tyson was in a whole different world that night

 

I think it's a wrong conclusion. The correct one is: Wlad makes the others look average. Without Wlad the likes of Brewster, Brock and Arreola would be much more competitive.

For example nearly after EVERY fight of Wlad people complain: "No wonder the heavies suck, Wlad's opponent has been completely inactive and showed a weak chin". But this is a delusion. The truth is, that Wlad's power and speed does not allow the opponents to be more active and their chin is not weak but Wlad punches so hard.

Ali punched so weak that his fights lasted 12+ rounds. And now everyone is hailing him "Wow, what a battle". No, Ali's weakness.

 

The heavyweight division has been considered weak dating back to when Lewis was the undisputed champ and Wlad was a prospect. For the love of God not everything revolves around the Klitscho brothers!!

Wlad is an incredible physical specimen with very good skills. That's it. He has three loses on his record and not against very good fighters at that!



There is quite simply a lack of talent in the heavyweight division and there has been since the late 1990's. Looking at the fact that Tony Thompson is considered a legit top ten if not top five talent in the division should tell you everything there is to know about the depth of the heavyweight division. Did you watch Thompson's skills? No power, slow hands and not a lot of heart towards the end of the fight and yet he is considered a top talent.

Just use your common sense and boxing knowledge and compare the top ten fighters of the late 80's early 90's for example to the top ten of today and think to yourself whether today's fighters would have a chance.

 

it doesnt get more prime than pre-prison tyson.. whos to say he would be focused to fight wlad?? tyson did knock douglas down in the fight but (like wlad) buster is a big man...

tyson was ripped when he fought douglas

 

The real reason is "nostalgia delusion".

Glass jaw and unified champ? I don't buy it.
Jabbing and grabbing? That sure explains the higher KO rate than Tyson.

 

Wladdy is the best heavyweight by default. He is decent and every fighter in the top 10 is crap.