The real score on jmm-pac 2 honest to goodness!

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  1. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    exaclty as mine... :good

    For me the the most crucial rounds were 7 and 9... which i gave to pac. i've watch it 3 times already and pac was actually blocking JMM's counters with his gloves while pac was hitting him with more clean shots.

    round 1 was hard to score too... and even though JMM hit pac with one clean straight pac was the more active/aggressive and was throwing and hitting more shots, not clean ones though but still can be considered as points.


    Side note: Pac almost went down with that liver shot on the 8th... and there was also about 3 low blows by JMM that were warned by the ref. There were also about 3 headbutts incidents...
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Both fighters missed allot in that round but JMM landed more clean punches for my money, I only saw it once but the majority of the round JMM controlled. Winning the last 10 seconds doesnt discount the other 2:50 of the round.
     
  3. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    The rounds that were hard to score in this fight were 1 and 12 IMO. The 1st round was given to Marquez and so was the 12th. But after watching the replay, round 1 should've gone to pacquiao and I think that's what the judges did. It was either round 1 or 12 that was given to him IMO. But it was a good fight.
     
  4. Sting

    Sting Akagami no Shanks Full Member

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    I'm also gonna wait till someone posts the whole fight on Youtube. I'd like to prove to the pro-JMM domination and pro-JMM robbery people how the the REAL fight went.
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    114-113 for Marquez for me... I though he's gonna win after the 12th, he closed the fight strong, again he went down and got up to win more rounds... 115-113 for me and of course -1 for the KD - even if it as close as 114-113, I thought JMM should have won it...
     
  6. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    I had Pac winning 1,3,4,9,10,11 while Marquez won 2,5,6,7,8.12
     
  7. Sting

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    Exactly. This is why I would like for a lot of people to rewatch the fight again if they get the chance. There were things that Pac did very well that wasn't really noticeable if you just watched it 1 time. Pac blocking JMM's shots with his gloves is one of them. I myself didn't noticed it AT ALL the first time I watched it. That's why I was so unsure of who the winner was after the fight, even after Pac was declared the winner.

    And after watching it the 2nd time, that's where I noticed that Pac actually blocked alot of JMM punches with his gloves. A lot of people would be fooled into thinking that JMM actually connected with those shots because alot of it got Pac actually backing up, which is understandable really, but if you really watch closely and carefully you'll see that those punches were actually hitting Pac's gloves instead of anything.
     
  8. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    :good :good Agreed 100%
     
  9. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I watched it 3 times already and i'm still watching it right now... and yes pac blocked a lot of JMM's shots it's just that pac has poor balance which make it look bad.
     
  10. Sting

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    He REALLY needs to work on his balance ALOT. I've never seen him get off-balanced as much as this fight. He was awful.
     
  11. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    I think the reason for this is because he was uncertain of how to attack JMM... there were times when he was pulling back his punches weary of being countered. And then JMM's movements didn't help a lot he was very hard to hit too!
     
  12. Tito Time

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  13. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    That has been a problem of his ever since.
     
  14. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    JMM had the edge in compubox totals by 15 more landed punches but IMO that was mostly due tot he 8th round where Pac barely threw anything due to the bleeding in the right eyes.

    Aside from that, punch landed should be about the same.
     
  15. stevebhoy87

    stevebhoy87 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I gave marquez rounds 1,2,5,6,8,11,12
    pacman took round 3,4,9,10
    and 7 as a draw

    so 115 113 marquez and i'm certainly no marquez nuthugger