The reason Chisora loses BADLY to Haye

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  1. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    A smaller ring will help chisora a bit, but haye has the footwork to evade him and the power to put him at bay. Do you think if haye connects with enough shots like he did against ruiz, will delboy still be stalking him?

    When haye lost to thompson he was a bit inexperience, he has learnt that he cannot simply go out and blast people out in the first half of the fight. He is better now and more calculated with his shots, which is probably the reason he doesn't have a high workrate, cant afford to gassed himself out so lesson learnt.

    This is a very one sided fight, if chisora proves me wrong then all props to him. We will just have to watch and see on 14 july.
     
  2. ollyc

    ollyc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    And Chisora has beaten who exactly?
     
  3. Legend X

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    I agree. But Haye proved nothing against Wladimir, he just backed away all night and lost by a wide margin.
     
  4. Legend X

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    Chisora's done nothing great either. But that's not the point. No one is pretending that Chisora's has beaten any David Hayes.

    But people are saying "Haye beats guys like Chisora easily" and stuff like that, but Haye has never fought any heavyweights in Chisora's category.
    Guys like Valuev and Ruiz were tired old fighters, Barrett was past it and just not much good, Harrison was both very crap and very old.

    Chisora's actually a half-decent young heavyweight who looked quite fresh and improving against contender Helenius and a champion Vitali within the last 7 or 8 months !
    That's a completely different proposition to going against guys like Ruiz or Valuev who were old and inactive fighters on their way down.

    There's a big difference between beating a young hungry improving fighter - even if he's nothing special - and beating a guy that's been around the block loads of times and is on his way out.
     
  5. luke

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    ruiz was a 40 year old who didnt have a very good chin, didnt rahman and golota put him down? and we all know tua ktf out of him, i think the fact that chisora hates haye as much as he does will keep him around, also I THINK THE WHOLE FIGHT HANGS ON IF CHISORA CAN TAKE HAYES POWER. if he can take hayes shot and walk through it i think chisora will win if he cant haye will, i still think its a long shot if haye kos chisora but you never know all it takes is one good shot, esp at heavyweight. roll on july 14, i'll be in sunny ibiza watching it in a bar haha!
     
  6. Dunky McCafferty

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    Maybe he is in his prime to us... BUT! In Hayes mind he didnt want to be still fighting at this point, he always went on about it. So now hes coming back against his own better judgement... he either needs the money(I doubt it) or he misses the limelight(I suspect)

    An easy warm up for the Klits? That doesnt wash with me Im afraid, as Hayes intention was to be out of boxing by this point. Haye is doing what he said he never would, & coming back, AND fighting a guy who he says doesnt deserve to be in the same ring as him.

    It all points to a man who is back for the wrong reasons... against a guy who is out to make a name for himself! Take from that what you will my friend:yep
     
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    oh good lord.
     
  8. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    This place has gone downhill. All these idiots who think Chisora won't get battered.
     
  9. matt007

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    The biggest skilled and best heavyweight cannot pin him down and take him out, so you think chisora can do better and KO him? :think
     
  10. BoxerGaz

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    Haye will beat Chisora no problem. But after i saw Chisora performance against vitali and Heli i think he will take some punishment and last a while. either way should be an ok fight. I wonder how many people would be interested in this fight before the **** hit the fan in Munich.

    Im just going to watch this one from home.

    G
     
  11. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Has delboy faced anyone like haye? Doesn't really means much for haye, he is about 2 levels above chisora, most can see that so dont delude yourself. However you can get odds of 5/1 for chisora to stop haye so put your money on that if you really believe delboy can do it.
     
  12. Geoffers

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    No he hasn't. Carl Thompson was a World Champion and if you think he's "lesser" than Del Boy then you need to get a sense of perspective.

    Also, if you rewatch the Thompson-Haye fight you'll clearly see that Haye gassed after battering Thompson round the ring. Nobody would have complained if that had been stopped in the first round with a TKO win for Haye.

    Thompson < Chisora ... :patsch
     
  13. luke

    luke Well-Known Member Full Member

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    and you think chisora wouldnt be a world champion in a weak unwatched division like the cruiser weight one thompson was from? chisora is not even 20 fights into his career and you think he will never be a world champ, ive seen lesser fighters become an alphabet hw champion
     
  14. dftaylor

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    Where have all the mongs, like you, come from?
     
  15. matt007

    matt007 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Hahaha what a joke, so much rubbish LOL :rofl

    Seeing you are bigging up delboy so much why dont we have a Man to Man bet without the bookies and go evens?