the reason floyd will never be a great fighter

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  1. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Still not sure how this adds value to your opinion regarding Floyds greatness. It might be worth concedeing a bit and absorbing all the other factors that create the recipe for a "great" fighter. Some fighters carry their power others havent though I can't see how that depreciates Floyds contribution to the sport. Would you consider Pete Rose, Ricky Henderson, Tye Cobb and Roberto Clemente "Ok" baseball players because they werent incredible homerun hitters?
     
  2. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    hes not going to bring a list because there isnt one.
     
  3. THIBB

    THIBB Active Member Full Member

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    Stop arguing with this clown!

    "Mama always told me don't argue with fools. Cuz people from a distance cant tell who is who."

    Jay-Z
     
  4. acie2g

    acie2g Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao for the most part has been fighting guys who had recently loss or been recently KO'd Mayweather is fighting guys who have never been KO'd or hasn't loss in years.
     
  5. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Why don't you just watch the fight. Then you'd know :lol:
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When is the last time Pacquiao scored a KO? 2009...

    Does that mean Manny does not have KO power?
     
  7. Ivo May

    Ivo May Member Full Member

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    Hm, a lot of sensitivity in this thread. I guess the OP pressed a sore point....
     
  8. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The only fighter that seem to have carried his power with him is Pac, other then that name another fighter who has ?

    Not even the great Ray Robinson had the same power at Middle weight as he did at Welter weight.
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well Jones started off at 154 so I'd say he carried his power up. Duran started off at 122 and knocked down Barkley at 160, and destroyed Moore at 154, so I'd add him to the list. Holyfield's a blown up cruiserweight who handled Tyson, so he too could make the list. Hearns, yup,
     
  10. fenoc1

    fenoc1 Active Member Full Member

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    A great fighter doesnt have to tke the risks, the risks he takes is fighting the top lads in the sport and giving 20 pounds on fightnight ! Hes great cos his skills are unreal plus look at his face not a mark on it, every other so called great have faces that were true the meat grinder with the exception of ray leonard !
     
  11. texboxing00

    texboxing00 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Did Pac fight Martinez or Williams? I assume you feel Pac is a ATG (which he is) But you dont feel Floyd should not be mentioned next to Pacs greatness?

    You know how when you are a kid they say when little girls make fun of you its because they like you? Well do you have some kind of crush on Floyd?

    You seem to really take a strong concern about his personal life & really offends you. Plus all the trash talk just makes it seem like you think about him 24/7. You know its ok if your on both sides (if you know what I mean)


    In terms of boxing Floyd is a ATG, in terms of a Person, he is no nobel peace prize winner.

    You know there are alot of athletes both (current & past) that have had questionable personal lifes, probably alot worse then floyd. Why don't you make a outcry about those athletes?

    O thats right , you only "Hate" floyd :hey
     
  12. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Roy Jones grew into 160 and his stay at 154 was not long at all.
    Duran took advantage of a young Moore that should have been in the ring with him the first place with on 12 fights, Moore was un proven and it more of Duran skill wearing Moore down then his power.

    Holyfield out worked his opponents at heavy weight he did not have the same explosive power he had at 175 and cruiserweight..


    In any case all of the fighter where not quite the same at there natural weigh especially Duran who had to become more technical as he moved up in weight. Everyone else Jones and holified only moved up 5 to 10 pounds at most not 40.

    In any case the fighter lost something, ether speed , power , mobility ,stamina, work rate . Pac has some how retain all of these assets while moving up in weight.
     
  13. second to none

    second to none Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What so you have to knock guys out to be great, how great was Ali then not exactly a monster puncher, Pep, Greb, Sweet Pea, Benny Leonard ect ******ed thread Floyd is one of the ATG
     
  14. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Your original question was name some fighters who retained their power when they moved up in weight, I listed a few. You then cite all kinds of reasons as to why their victories weren't power related, even when they KO'd fighters.

    Who cares if Jones started off at 154 or 160, he certainly was KOing fighters at 175 regardless.

    So what exactly is your point?

    That Pac is on PED's is that the point of all this?
     
  15. King Lion

    King Lion Member Full Member

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    :lol: Once again the boxing_masturbator has shown exactly how much of a brain damaged jerk-off he is! :lol: