I don't rate him as the next boxing messiah like the majority but it's a welcome change hearing a guy in someones corner on the biggest stages that ain't flapping like a chicken and giving the shittiest advice, I actually feel like punching buddy mcgirt whenever I hear him in a fighters corner.
?????????????????????????????????????????? I'm truly stunned. Go watch the interview again and you'll see that what you just did is you manufactured smth to justify Nazim's statement, to make it seem like it made sense. Do you realize that man? There was no mention of Shane losses AT ALL in the interview!! Do you see the pathology here?? You literally made smth up, manufactured it out of thin air, to keep up the sage Nazim persona that you people take so seriously.
Interpreting a metephoric quote? It's no more than what you did in the first place by saying he meant that shane won't retire just because he fights so rarely. The only person who keeps using the phrase "boxing sage" is you.
If you cant see it based on Mosleys past you dont know what the hell your talking about anyway. Ditto Oh I dont know, steering two fighters to victories over highly ranked opponents, of which were two of their respective bests, and yes the corner has something to with that. Yes it does, because certain trainers can recognize this and alter a fighters style or pace to compensate for it. It takes someone who knows what their looking at to understand how maybe they just beat a fighter they couldnt have beaten had they done things the way they did in the past. Ranking or being at the top of the sport with proven results, Im not ranking anyone just listing some top guys. Their body of work stand on its own. Weve seen some of these trainers take limited fighters and have them exploit great champions, or develop what was once an ordinary guy into a world champion, or come up with a winning strategy against all odds, that certainly has something to do with the work the trainer has done with the fighter. Noone trains themself in the gym and becomes great, if so why do trainers even exist? Look at the great amatuer Jorge Luis Gonzalez, he shared your same mindset, didnt use a trainer and got his ass handed to him as soon as he stepped up in class.
This here is another example of the pathology displayed by the guy who made up Shane's losses as the thing Naz was refering to. Do you people realize what he has said here? I know you don't, that's a rhetorical question. He has said that he doesn't know what Naz did but he KNOWS Naz did smth. But this is serious, if you can't see your own symptoms when you show them like that you're really dumb (well, we already know that). This shows you that you WANT nazim to be this boxing scholar. Great, now how me proof that Nazim did all this rather than Shane working on it himself in training or making it up during the fight because the openings were there. You see, you idiots??? You see why it is idiotic to rank trainers and give them credit? It's a difficult concept for idiots, but you can get it, just try hard. GO IDIOTS :happy GO IDIOTS :happy GO!
Look, you idiot, if a metaphoric quote can't be interpreted than all he's feeding his fighters in the corner is **** because all he does is talk metafors. you ****ing idiot. Watch the goddamn interview!!! He says that Shane's been out for 16 months but you don't throw away a Cadillac bc it has a dent in it. It's really easy to understand, really it is. GO IDIOT :happy UNDERSTAND IT! YOU CAN DO IT :happy GO! Here's a serious question for you: Do you realize you completely made it up taht he was speaking about Shane's losses. Do you not realize that you made up an excuse for him???
The guy is revered because he is very humble in the way he conducts himself and extremely respectful to the sport and its athletes. To add to that, he makes good sense when he speaks and put its across in a way, which not many people (trainers/coaches) can. That's why people like to listen. The guy doesn't talk bad about anyone. The sport is plagued with men talking out of term about one another. I salute the man for his humility. Your a nobody newby, don't think your capable of such questioning. Get a job newby and lay off the forums with hate.
By your well thought out description of Nazim, I'd say you have a deep admiration and fondness towards him.
If you see him thinking more you ought to be able to point to an example where you see it. Please show me. The rest of this **** I'm just too tired to deal with.
When you actually look at the quote it's not that hard to understand Johnson, Naz has used that quote in relation to both his fighters a few times. I personally don't believe that I misinterpreted the quote, fine we disagree but don't take it so personally. Your original point (and in some cases valid) in the thread has turned into some vendetta against the esb community, you clearly have an agenda.
What do you mean give me a break!?? Is there, as I supsected, not example you can point to and you were just saying things that sound smart to you? ???
Believe??? You have opinions on what things mean. Like you hear a sentence and you're not sure... jesus Yeah, I have an agenda, I'm really here to embarass everyone. Einstein
What a complete ****ing tit you are. You tell me I hear a sentence and that my opinion is that I'm not sure what to make of it? The ****ing thing is open to interpretation. Just because you say somethings black don't make it so dip****, interpret that.