The Reason So Many Hate Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by adub215, Nov 24, 2008.


  1. Clearly Cool

    Clearly Cool Active Member Full Member

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    It was his label of p4p number one (won't argue with that) that got bums on seats. Any undefeated, p4p boxer will gain attention. De La Hoya fighting anyone with a pulse will get raging views and mainstream attention. The fact he was fighting the number 1 p4p boxer contributes even more. Hatton vs. PBF was a huge fight again because Hatton got English people involved AND was a top p4p boxer at the time. Two undefeated, prime young p4p boxers...when will that not sell?

    Mosley isn't in the top 10p4p, has a few losses and is getting on in age, of course he wouldn't get the same attention.

    You shouldn't say things that you know nothing about. I have seen all those fights in full except Corley. Some good fights, but nearly every top boxer has a list of good fights they were in. Most of them were at lower weights before he was considered the best. For what its worth they were not all slug matches too.

    Wrong again ****er. Everyone appreciates the craft of boxing, especially when it is applied to its fullest. Potshotting for twelve rounds and doing enough to win is not exciting. Thats why those types of fights never get fight of the year. Although to be fair the Hatton fight was good. Guys that have the skills and are willing to take risks are far more entertaining.

    He faught Cotto and Williams and the Mosley fight is back on. Plus he gets more money now....so it ended up working out well for him. Tool.
     
  2. adub215

    adub215 Active Member Full Member

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    ali was much more entertaining and more offensive much more cruel but who cares he was funny its boxing im not asking for them to do what joe c and kessler are doing in that pic nor am i saying dont talk **** but he said he retired he didnt talk **** after the fight to hatton but now hes talking **** a yr later for what then the the other **** he talks is just completly ****ing stupid like hes a rapper on mtv cribs or somthing i had alot of respect for this kid until he started talking
     
  3. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Frazier still hates his guts. Calling a black man like Frazier, who grew up roughing it, an uncle Tom, is probably the worst thing you could have called a black man in those days.
    Its supposed to be like that. The more people hate him the more people want to see him get his ass beat, the more people buy his fights.

    The reason it works is because people still take that **** seriously.
     
  4. adub215

    adub215 Active Member Full Member

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    we know why hes saying there names though because hatton and DLH are in the spotlight and hes not and hes jealous
     
  5. gottagivafight

    gottagivafight When you least expect it, expect it!!! banned Full Member

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    Floyd was a good guy early on when his daddy was in his corner, you got that right. Then somewhere along the line this metamorphasis occured and he become a ****in' *******. But as you mentioned, that's Floyd the person and not Floyd the fighter. Floyd the fighter was great (by way of accomplishment) and Floyd the person's a ****in' cocksucker.
     
  6. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    floyd is just a dumb, insecure, gangsta wanna be who is too soft to pull off the part. his demeaner changes because he doent know who he is or who he wants to be. one minute he wants to be ray leonard, another minute he wants to be tupac.
    ive noticed that the more time passes the lower he is dropping on most peoples atg list. maybe that will reverse when he fights again, and he will fight again. he is too insecure to accept that boxing is still making big events without him and like a child whose mom is paying too much attention to another child, he will demand the spot light.
     
  7. Bad_Intentions

    Bad_Intentions Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl :good.
    i laugh at those people who think just because your mouth is running doesn't make you a future ATG.
    the amount of stupidity in the boxing world is amazing.
     
  8. Danny_Rand

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    Oh so now its not just P4P number 1, its going undefeated. Sorry, Calzaghe could fight Chad Dawson in Wales, 2 undefeated fighters in the top 10 P4P, and it wont get nearly a quarter the amount of attention Floyd V Hatton got. Floyd by his mouth and antics, made himself a household name, probably the only household name of his generation in America. Margarito V Cotto, 2 fighters at the top of their primes, you supposedly say are exciting with massive fanbases. Didnt do a quarter as well as Hatton V Mayweather did. Why is that?
    The buy rate in America alone was 850,000. Thats nearly 100,000 more then the next highest of this decade, Lennox V Tyson. So no, it wasnt just English boxing fans that made this fight. Like I said, like De La Hoya, Mayweather made himself a household name in the USA. Probably the first fighter to do that since the Mosley, De La Hoya, Tito generation of fighters.
    JMM V Pac-man, the number 1 P4P fighter and number 3, barely did 300,000 if I remember correctly.
    Oscar vs Floyd did 2.4 million buys. Shane Vs Oscar didnt do nearly that much. Both were top 10 P4P and I believe Mosley was undefeated and might have been number 1. Why didnt that do as much as Floyd V an older Oscar?
    Rounds 7-9 vs Chavez was straight close quarters slug fest. Rounds 8-12 V Castillo were straight close quarters slug fest. So was Corley for the majority of the fight, and Ndou. Hatton V Mayweather was a very exciting fight aswell. There are far more boring fighters then mayweather out there. Thats not an excuse.
    What Margarito does is not craft lol. Its punishing smaller fighters with a high work rate without giving a damn for defense. That is not exciting to me. Exciting is watching a clinical domination by using the sweet science to its highest degree like Hatton V Floyd. To you it may seem like simple potshotting, but you dont notice Floyds defense, his footwork, him breaking a fighter down, the adaptability, the way he changes tactics from round to round ect.
    Rofl. Sorry thats not an explanation why he wont fight Williams again ass. Why he's going after a 40 year old Mosley ass. Why is greatest win is over a fighter half his size tool. Why he feels the need to fight guys he has about 20 lbs on fight night dick. Why he wont fight Williams again for the same amount of money he's getting fighting Mosley ass. :hi:
     
  9. Danny_Rand

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    Now thats the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Everyone recongnizes boxing is in deep **** when Madison Square Garden cant sell out a championship fight with Roy Jones in it..
     
  10. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    you must not proof read your posts.
     
  11. WelshWizard

    WelshWizard Slap King Full Member

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    Hes a grown ass man that can do whatever he wants. I don't care what he does outside the ring and many yall cant stand it but why do you care? If he wants to run his mouth and get on the way he does well thats his problem .He talks a lot of **** but guess what he wins !!! it's not like he talks **** and get his ass beat which some of yall don't mind seeing lol.I respect him because when it comes down to business in the ring the man train his ass off and always comes to the ring prepare mentally and physically ALWAYS.
     
  12. Clearly Cool

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    OK let me clear a few things up. There are many factors that contribute a successful fight. OBVIOUSLY its not going to be just an undefeated record, or the nationality of a boxer, or their p4p position...its going to be the size of the promotion, rivalry and personalities etc. I bet the money and time spent on those promotions was among the largest in history, it had 24/7, tv spots, cross country promotional tours. Hatton and Floyd was considered a good match up years before it actually happened too. Margarito and Cotto didn't have the same promotional machine behind it and the real drawcard (young, undefeated, exciting Cotto) could barely speak English.

    Granted Calzaghe and Dawson wouldn't sell nearly as much, but give Dawson the same HBO career, a few more wins and some media attention and there is a chance for a huge fight. Especially in England/Wales.

    Again I never said it was JUST the english fans. COmbination of factors.

    Both non-american, previously defeated and at a lower weight. Again, promotion compared to DLH, Hatton and PBF was not very big. JMM had only had a few big televised fights against guys casual fans wouldn't know.

    I'm not sure how this debate got onto Floyd being popular, he sells fights (I can't argue with that), but possibly for the same reasons as above. Hes a good business man for what its worth.

    Wow, he actually faught in some rounds of his matches...im shocked.

    I like boxing because of the mix of styles. I appreciate a guy like Margarito as much as I appreciate a slick boxer. I just prefer a boxer who is willing to mix it up than who doesn't. Imagine if PBF let his hands go and threw more combinations, you could see his skills at a faster more dramatic pace, of course then he risks losing. But to say he becomes a skilless brawler because he fights more is not true.

    You can spout as much **** as you like but at the end of the day he has/will fight those ALL of those guys. Im not even a huge Margarito fan but I appreciate the way he actually faces the best in his weight division.

    Im not sure how we changed to this but my main point is that Mayweather is NOT hated simply because he is the best. His personality is ****ing annoying and he is an immature little *****, plus his style is inconsitant in terms of excitement. Add to that gimpy fanboys and you have the perfect reason to dislike any boxer, regardless of talent.
     
  13. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the ***** boy floyd is a 31 year old ***** boy acting like a kid there

    legend fighter bigggest dickhead
     
  14. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    i miss floyd. he could produce magic in the ring.
     
  15. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    yeah, saw this a few days back. the crap that comes out of this guys mouth is so stupid its not even funny.