The reason Vitaly can never be in my top 10

British/americans complainers detected......!

what we are talking about? How do you define greateness? Bacause as a matter of pure strongness, well Vitali is all time top 3... he would simply dismantle the half of the list of your top 10.... there are just few fighters that could have beaten him, and nobody with easy or on regolar basis;
Shall we talk about Ali, your number 2? Do you even know Ali's HW record, the one regarding what we NOW call Heavyweight? 26-4. This is Ali's record excluding all the cruiserweight he faced. And yet he has a terrible ko percentage, only discrete because pumped up by facing cruiserweights. And yet he outweighted, and outreached the 70% (70%!!!!) of his opponents.... and yet, he got knoccked out by the cruiser Henry Cooper, a fighter that himself called "a bum". And yet, many others of his wins are fixed or stolen. And he didn't even won the HW gold medal at the olimpics... he won the light hevyweights one! I'll conclude with an original quote from Ali himself:

"I figured that if I said it enough, I would convince the world that I really was the greatest"

 

Yes, this is the problem: the level of knowledge of the Claytards.... i well know that in the past, fighters were allowed to fight as what we now call cruiserweights, and then was called hevyweight... in the '20s was even worst... and already in the 20s they called the "hevy"weight division dead from years.... figure if the likes of Lennox Lewis, or the K2, or any other modern HW would be allowed to pick theyr opponents in the cruiserweight division (or even below, like appened in the past); that would be a sign of "how weak is the division right now".
By the way, this is also the reason of why it will NEVER be developed a "super heavyweight" division, like at the olympics: bacause that would disqualify IMMEDIATLY the value of the past "heavy"weights.

 

So is wlad a claytard also??.. 1:00

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what a useless question :-/ of course he said like that, do you think that he could seriously say "yes, i think that Henry Cooper would have ktfoed me, too "? Wlad is too much a polite persona, he will never thrash talk about ali or other boxers of the past, being them even the '30s ones... Plus, that question wasn't regarding who is stronger, but how great, in the general sense, ali was; and, undoubtedly, ali gave enormous publicity to the world of the boxe;
Maybe if that question would have been made to Lennox Lewis, or to David Haye, just to say some names, the answer would have been different... Some questions are never made directly in Lewis interviews, it's not difficult to wonder why

 

Lennox Lewis said in an Interview "He doesn't like to compare himself to people he looked up to" and he added "he is the best of his Era". He sees things similar to Wladimir.

 

Neither of them will ever make any relevant top 20 list. Thats a fact. Wlad will be lucky to be intducted into the HOF.

The major factor in evaluating greatness is the strenght of your competition. Both of they're CV's aren't woth a bag of rabbits.

 

Marciano (although he is white... and seems you don't like that) should be above Holyfield at least. Holyfield never really beat a good HW (no, Bowe is not good, he is the HW Jeff Lacy) except Tyson. And he really was a master (probably the best ever) at beating small men his own size, which is why he is the best CW ever. But his HW resume is not so hot.

Vitaly is probably not top 10 on paper. Although highest KO percentage of any HW champion through-out history etc are things you could have, but of course would not mention.

H2H he is clearly top 10 though - probably top 5 too. I have Ali, Foreman, Tyson, and Lewis on the other spots there.

I don't have Wlad in my top 10 on accomplishments either. Nor do I have Wlad in my top 10 H2H. He is simply not mentally strong enough and fighters like Marciano, Frazier and several others would give Wlad a very hard time.

 

I like Vitali and no he is not top ten. And the only one looking like an
******* is you with your ****ed up ranting. :deal

 

Both Louis and Holmes had career defining wins and had ATG skill and ability.. Wlad has not a single note worthy win on his record and it will hurt him bad as time goes on.

Longevity means nothing if you never beat an elite level fighter in your life, which he hasn't.
If thats all it took, Sven Ottke would be an ATG , and he hasn't even horrible knock out loses to nobody's.

 

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