The reason why Canelo wont fight Benavidez

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    That's just you projecting what you want to believe. Crawford was accused of ducking Spence for a while but fought him, Fury was accused of ducking Usyk and some still don't think the fight will happen but it so far looks like it's on. People said Hopkins didn't want to fight Dawson, but he fought him twice. Even Bivol is finally facing Beterbiev.

    Time will tell us what the truth is. Delaying the fight doesn't really favour Canelo as he's the older man. I think the fight eventually happens once the money is right for both parties to agree terms. I personally try to avoid the usual fan boy hysteria from both sides when the fight doesn't happen right away, I've followed this sport for too long to fall for the same old tricks. Marinating fights is a genuine marketing strategy promoters use all the time and in my opinion that's what is happening now.
     
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  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wouldn't go as far as saying Canelo is flat footed, his movement is fine, not great but he's not plodder, the fact GGG didn't just pin him on the ropes the whole time, who is exceptional at cutting off the ring proves that Canelo's movement is more than adequate.

    As for Benavidez volume that's only a factor is he can be in a position to punch and also not being countered punched to a stand still. We've seen so many so called volume punchers work rate fall off a cliff when faced with a good counter puncher. Crawford vs Spence being the latest example at the elite level. Hard to let your hands go when you get punished every time you do.

    History has shown us that Canelo struggles with fighters who move well on the back foot and that's not Benavidez. GGG was really the only exception to that rule and that's because GGG had that granite chin I mentioned so could walk through Canelo's counters. He was also far better at cutting off the ring than Benavidez and his superb jab was a real important points scorer for him to keep Canelo offset which Benavidez lacks. So as I said before for Benavidez to win he's going to have to show us some major heart, guts and chin because he will no doubt be taking a lot of hard shots in this fight.
     
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  3. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    You still aren't understanding how you are contradicting yourself. Why does the fight need to marinate and have an influx of Saudi money if David Benavidez is just another contender?

    I am beyond incredulous.

    You might say that Canelo wins this easily, but everything else you post points to the contrary.
     
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  4. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    So the promoter who couldnt honour the original guarantees should be trusted by Canelo to honour higher guarantees? Please.
     
  5. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    Did the check from the Jermell fight not clear or something?

    The fact of the matter is that Canelo was costing them too much money and he was cut loose, scot free. No lawsuit forthcoming.

    I think you really need to sit and think here. Which is more egregious, PBC asking Canelo to make a lucrative fight against his MANDATORY with a financial guarantee... or Canelo asking for another shitty Charlo fight and his money to be put in escrow?

    Do we really not see how crazy a demand that was? Canelo knew such a ridiculous demand would be rejected, knew that he would be out on his ass, and had already plotted his next move back to Matchroom.

    Canelo tries to pull a 100 million dollar heist -knowing full well he wasn't fighting Benavidez- and wound up with 35 mil. Not the full score, but still a sweet lick, and now he's back home with daddy.
     
  6. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Canelo isn't a plodder but he's definitely not far off from one. It's why he got completely schooled by Mayweather. I know Benavidez isn't Mayweather but he's more likely to put a beating on Canelo than a schooling.

    You could be right that Canelo is simply too good for him. But the way I see it, if Canelo doesn't hurt him early or knock him out it's going to be rough for him in the middle to later rounds when his inevitable gassing begins. At that point, it's going to be a matter of Canelo playing defense and just trying to not get KTFO. If he doesn't hurt Benavidez, his normal front-foot bossing and looking for the KO of his opponent isn't going to happen. And I also think Canelo isn't the type to go out on his shield. He's going to make it ugly so he can see 12 rounds.

    I think it's an intruging fight and it's one I'd love to see. But Canelo doesn't need Benavidez and most likely won't fight him because he is too dangerous of an opponent.
     
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  7. liger1992

    liger1992 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Rejected lol

    PBC ageed to Canelo's demands as soon as they signed the 3 fight deal. PBC maybe used to calling the shots with other fighters but thinking they could try and get Canelo amend his deal to get the PBC out of the hole they put themselves in really was stupid.
     
  8. Eclipse

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    You are literally answering your own questions in the same post. You admit Canelo is ducking Benavidez yet you blame PBC for not putting Benavidez on the contract despite admitting its the the most lucrative fight to make. The lack of logic is astonishing. Benavidez was clearly not on the contract because Canelo did not want it.

    You admit PBC send Canelo an offer last year to fight benavidez yet still claim they don't want the fight to happen. You contradict yourself constantly. Its usually what happens when someone is talking crap. On the other hand everything makes sense if you just accept Canelo refuses to fight Benavidez under any circumstances. Everything logically falls into place. Amazing!
     
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  9. Eclipse

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    55m plus PPV would be canelo's biggest ever pay day. You claim you want to be realistic then pretend Canelo walked away from the biggest revenue fight possible for him over drunk charlo a fight nobody wanted to see, to get paid less to fight Mungia. Yes so realistic!
     
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  10. Eclipse

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    Time had told the truth. Canelo has now rejected 3 offers to fight Benavidez. Signed a 3 fight PBC without Benavidez on the contract, and ran away to DAZN when PBC tried to force the Benavidez fight, to get paid less money to fight bums. Only a confession would be more obvious that this, yet you are sitting there still scratching your head pondering if its a duck. All those examples you listed did not involve rejecting multiple contracts and running from a promotion. This is surely the biggest most blatant duck in boxing history. You still think this is marinating? Benavidez just left to 175, how can you be serious?

    Your evidence of Canelo not being a plodder is a fight from 7 years ago in a different division? Great analysis, no wonder you are so off base. Canelo today is a mega plodder. Much more flat footed than Benavidez, plus so gas talk. He would gas out by round 4 vs Benavidez and be a sitting duck and he knows it, hence why he ran away from pbc to beat up bums.
     
  11. chuckscap

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    Agree!
     
  12. steviebruno

    steviebruno ESB NYC Delegate banned Full Member

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    My, how the tables have turned!
     
  13. YoungQawi

    YoungQawi New Member Full Member

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    Agree.

    Canelo won't fight him, and is asking for 200 million because, as Andre Rozier likes to say, he's going to be in "deep waters." To be in deep waters, you want to squeeze as much money out of it. Benavidez is gonna apply a lot more educated pressure than Munguia did, has more power overall, weight advantage, reach, etc.. and Canelo knows he won't be able to bully Benavidez as he bullies all his opponents at that weight class. Simply put, fighting Benavidez is a high risk fight, though I'd argue it is also high reward.
     
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  14. m.s.

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    If he is asking 200 million, he is pricing himself out. He got freebies against Golovkin 1&2, maybe he knows his freebie days are over. Also, he has to keep the fight close enough for it to be within robbing distance, and that may not be possible against Benavidez.
     
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  15. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Asking for 200 Mill is boxings way of saying "No thanks, I'm too scared"
     
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