The reason why Deontay's fight is not announced yet, is the fault with the opponents?

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  1. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These Wilder apologists are getting so tired. Why do they root for this guy? I understand taking a soft voluntary defense in your first one but Molina was beyond the pale. He was terrible. Now his second defense all we are hearing is Wawrzyk, Duhaupas, Arreolla. I mean come on the guy is making a mockery of the belt. Have some pride. Where's Takam, Thompson, Jennings. Guys an Olympic medalist, a "champion" with 35 pro fights should of been fighting long time ago. Guy's a joke.
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Exactly, well ****ing said... And just add a bit of perspective Parker was supposed to fight Molina a couple of months ago before Wilder snatched him up, a ****ing prospect who's still developing was set to face your first defense before you took him away :patsch

    I bet Parker would have dispatched him quicker, and more convincingly as well!
     
  3. deyell

    deyell MOLECULE FROM HELL. Full Member

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    I believe The Worm would deserve a rematch.
     
  4. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, he's not.

    The WBC championship has already been defended this year ... when Wilder won it against Stiverne. He has to make a mandatory within a year of winning it.

    Povetkin has been a mandatory challenger for less than 3 months. He hasn't been made to wait.

    The WBC rules are posted on their website.

    UnleashtheFury has an obsession with Wilder. Wilder defended against a guy ranked in the WBC top 15 (Moilna) and will announce next week that he's defending against No. 12, Johann Duhaupass (who got that ranking for beating Charr in his last fight).

    Now you can argue who should be ranked by the various organizations and say the WBC is corrupt, but they don't have Shannon Briggs and Mark DiMori in their top 15 like some other organizations. They don't have an unknown Charles Martin in their top 5, like two of the others do.

    I just wonder where the outrage is over Ruslan Chagaev -- won his title in July 2014 and made ZERO defenses in his first year with that belt. Then he bypassed his mandatory, Lucas Browne (lol), to fight Pianeta ... and plans to fight Fres Oquendo next ( :verysad ). So he'll likely go around 2 years without making a mandatory, yet this gets zero criticism.

    If you don't like the WBC, its rules or its rankings, fair game ... but they are consistent with what goes on with the rules and rakings of the other organizations.
     
  5. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I really want to like Wilder, but if he fights a guy who hasnt even had a full training camp its going to be very very very embarrassing for him.

    If he wants another fight to prepare for Sasha then OK, I can see how the timing isnt great either for generating buzz for the fight. But FFS at least fight a top 15-20 level guy with a full camp.
     
  6. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden It's OK to have beliefs, just don't believe them Full Member

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    I don't really have a problem with Duhaupas - if you're in the top 15 you get a shot. I just don't think it's fair on him (or anybody) to not announce it until a ridiculous preparation time.
     
  7. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    You're really defending the Molina fight dummy??? Parker a god damn prospect was set to fight him before Wilders team gave him an offer, Molina is **** even for a voluntary.

    Fact is, myself and all of the other Wilder detractors tell the truth about the fraud... If you me consider criticizing that fraud whenever I see fit "obsessive" then fine by me, HW is my favorite division.


    Also. Chagaev isn't a real champ, most boxing fans see the WBA(Regular) as a trinket belt, so moot point. Wlad is the WBA champ, NOT Chagaev. Chagaev can fight whoever he want for all I care, he's not a real champion. Wilder on the other hand(unfortunately) is in possession of one of the most esteemed belts of all of boxing, therefore he's obligated and expected to fight the best competition available, and knowledgeable fans such as myself will call him out for not doing so.
     
  8. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    I agree..... I think if given more notice this would have been an acceptable, but not a great fight. It's not even confirmed yet though.......
     
  9. BoJangles

    BoJangles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    lol

    Dustin Nichols is waiting for Wilder to call him!!

    to be safe Wilder will only give Nichols

    24 hours notice for the fight!!

    lmao
     
  10. The Long Count

    The Long Count Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's so bad it's August 16th and still no word on an opponent for Wilder. He's basically having a TBA type of fight as HW "champion" the type of stuff usually relegated for novices, prospects and opening acts on a fight card.

    Regarding the above poster complaining that no one is bringing up Chagaev. Let's be realistic here the WBA "regular" champion belt is irrevelant. Nobody really cares and that's why the rules are not enforced. The WBC belt is a legitimate title and to waste it on a joke of a defense against Molina and follow up with a TBA a month out is indefensible. If you're a fan of the sport and respect the division you have to be scratching your head at these two title defenses. They are THAT bad.
     
  11. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    I know they are posted, I've quoted them you nuthugger. You clearly have no understanding of them. Wilder winning the belt is not a mandatory defense :patsch The rule says a WBC champion must make at least one mandatory defense a year. Wilder won the belt January 17th, just to establish the facts for you. Now the rule could be interpreted in 2 ways.

    1. He has to make at least one mandatory defense in this year (by Dec 31, 2015)

    2. He has to make a mandatory defense by Jan 17, 2016, one year from when he gained the belt.

    Regardless of when Povetkin became the mandatory, he is the mandatory and Wilder should be facing him next before the deadline instead of trying to scrounge up some last minute opponent as a 2nd voluntary.

    Wilder is available, Povetkin is available, negotiations or a purse bid should already have happened, resulting in a fight date to satisfy WBC rules. Instead, all we have is ducking and Wilder throwing around baseless PED accusations trying to set up his excuses for losing the belt to Povetkin. Wilder needs to stop ducking, face his obligation....then NOBODY can fault him for taking optional defenses until his next mando is due.
     
  12. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, he can't find anybody willing to fight for a title. Great thinking.

    Take the man's nustsack out of your mouth.

    He is a coward who cannot find anyone ****py enough to be a safe fight.

    I hope whatever can they do find knocks him out and permanently shuts him out of megafights with Wlad and Povetkin. That would be funny, and very possible.

    What the hell happend to this sport that a guy who is marginally better than Dustin Nichols and Harold Scoiners but demonstrably poorer than Demetrice King is supposedly a "champion." Just sign Fujimoto and be done with it for Christ's sake.
     
  13. tylerdurden

    tylerdurden It's OK to have beliefs, just don't believe them Full Member

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    The esteemed "Tuscaloosa News" is saying it's Duhaupas with some certainty
    As long as it's WBC top 15, (and we don't know how much notice Duhaupas has had) there's no grounds for the abuse Wilder is getting

    Don't let me stop you though
     
  14. SimplyTheBest

    SimplyTheBest Heavyweight Destroyer Full Member

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    I've made a clear and valid argument that there is grounds
     
  15. andrewa1

    andrewa1 Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Best thing that ever happened to Molina's career. Now he's marketable as a "former world heavyweight title challenger". A fringe guy like Duhaupas, who's good, top 20ish, but has some losses and probably will never otherwise get a title shot, would absolutely jump at this opportunity.