The reason why so many Pav fans are so obsessed with Paul Williams...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by NeckBreaknAiken, Feb 10, 2010.


  1. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Considering the profession he is trying to break into, NBA would be well served to clean up his language. Long story short, when I was considered part of the Pittsburgh zone for a while, some piece of **** made a point of hunting me down each meeting and bragging how he baited a black manager and got him fired. This was the high point of his miserable existence.
     
  2. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    The thread starter posts in every single pavlik thread And yet he thinks others are obsessed?

    I understand why pavlik's more avid supporters talk about Williams a lot, and I think that since I am a big fan of both fighters I can be more objective.

    In the past Williams camp has called pavlik an easy fight , one of paul's easiest opponents... Pavlik and arum both have recently called Williams out. The biggest payday of his career and a chance at the middle weight championship of the world is at his fingertips then... And all he has to do is beat a supposed easy opponent ..

    Not a single word from Williams , only his camps indication that he is moving back down in weight and also the fact that he has been priced out of a pavlik fight by his promoter. Fighting cintron ?? I mean , at least give Martinez a rematch, I think he deserves it.. But his hanlders want no part of Martinez either


    And the espino / pullout argument is not valid , His medical issues are on public record and so is his requirment to fight dec 19 or he would have lost his belts
     
  3. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Eat ****, *****. You ain't no more objective than Pavlik is King...


    At least he knows he's a contankerous *******...
     
  4. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    Actually I expected a joke of a boxing fan and person to respond exactly this way . Haha , you're one hardcore e-thug aren't you ?
     
  5. Pavlik is Champ

    Pavlik is Champ PDub is RUNNING scared Full Member

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    Keep me out of your argument. If you cant defend yourself and the claims that he made against you, then your sorry. Deflecting it to me when youre the one hes calling out makes you look like what he said against you has merit to it, actually the whole paragraph was true! :hi:
     
  6. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't care about that lame-ass paragraph.

    He's doing the exact same thing Boo the Lyin King does..

    He states opinions as if they're fact. And leaves out pertinent information, and then hides behind the cloak of objectivity, saying "I'm a fan of both, blah blah, blah"

    Rubbish.

    Doesnt warrant a response.
     
  7. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    What did I say that was not a fact ? I think you just have an unwillingness to concede that you are wrong , and that you're just a fanboy who has no real knowledge of boxing
     
  8. Hermit

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    Their 'homies'. He comes by his bias honestly.
     
  9. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    OK I'll play along.


    People in Williams' camp have said Pav would be one of the easiest fights. But how is that relevant? It has nothing to do with negotiations. And to say that Pav has since called him out is a bit silly, considering the fact that he only did so after Goosen and Arum made it painfully clear that the fight was not going to happen any time soon. Goosen had already told Arum even before the Martinez fight, that they were through trying to fight him, and that Paul will move on with his career. You are leaving this very relevant set of facts out, in an attempt to paint Williams as suddenly reluctant or scared after he was KD'd against Martinez.

    Now, about Martinez... Williams went into negotiations with Martinez, and had come very close to landing that rematch. It wasn't an issue of Williams not offering the rematch as you are implying. There is nothing that has ever come out of the Martinez camp to indicate they were denied an opportunity for a rematch, especially with Pavlik and his belts calling Dibella about trying to fight him.

    So your statement about Paul not wanting anything to do with a Martinez rematch is pure conjecture and isn't based on a shred of evidence. Not in the least. You are assuming because it was a tough, close fight that Paul didn't want to do it again. Completely wrong.
     
  10. Pavlik is Champ

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    ,,,,,he'd rather fight cintron than have a rematch with Sergio or win the M.W. championship by beating china chinned pavlik...HUH?
     
  11. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :good

    I have never implied that I was unbiased.
     
  12. box101

    box101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it is sad in these times when certain racial barriers are being hurrdled an a reverse racist like you aint no beter than anyone else casue you dont look at pav as a fighter he is you look at him as ano hoper whiteguy fact pavlik throws bombs ,fact he is not fleet of foot ,fact paul willams great volume puncher ,fact paul dont use movement or clinching to out box people,fact both very good accoplished fighters regardless of race, color, or creed. fact both represent styles an wepons netiher have seen an would make for explosive fight. fact if we want change we cant be worse than problem at hand it is great to be proud an supportive but it is time to look at people as people not black white or other an that is always your underliying argument in these threads
     
  13. Mr. HU

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    Shut up!!!
     
  14. Hermit

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    Reverse Racist? :huh
     
  15. box101

    box101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    if someone listed hennesy,old english,saint ides ,crack cocaine ,nighttrain,anshlitz malt liqur what would they be implying an what whould they be considerd racisist so **** your :patsch?