The reason why Teddy Atlas hates on Manny Pacquiao

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Boxing trainer and ESPN boxing analyst Teddy Atlas continues to show his obvious jealousy of Freddie Roach and hatred of Pacquiao; trainer Freddie Roach’s success has left Teddy as a wannabe and an also-ran trainer.

    There were rumors that Atlas was rejected by Pacquiao as a trainer and chose Freddie Roach instead. If that was the case, I can see where Atlas would become a little bitter and venomous towards Pacquiao and Roach. It seems that Atlas goes out of his way just to derail the success of the dynamic duo at every chance he gets. Atlas said on ESPN that he would not place Pacquiao in the top 20 of all time greatest fighters and ranks Floyd Mayweather ahead of Pacquiao. Look at the body language of the other broadcasters while Atlas is talking. They were just disgusted at the absurdity of what he was saying. Atlas also countered his co-host that Sugar Ray Leonard would stop Manny Pacquiao. Once again, check out the body language of the others, they look incredulous at Atlas’ statements.
     
  2. boxingfanneato

    boxingfanneato what would MORALES do! Full Member

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    sugar ray leonard "put in pacquiao"
    quoted phrase in the voice of redman
     
  3. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Freddie Roach and Manny Pacquiao have been together since early 2001. Roach took him in when all other trainers told Pac that Filipino boxers were unmarketable in the U.S.

    From my understanding, Atlas offered to train Pacquiao for his fight with Jorge Solis when Freddie Roach trained Oscar De La Hoya to fight Floyd back in 2007. Pac declined the offer and chose Freddie's assistant at the time Justln Fortune instead. Funny how all of Teddy's hate on Pac emerges from that point on.
     
  4. mRD

    mRD vagabond Full Member

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    Pac never fails to make Atlas look like **** with all his analysis and predictions. Fact:deal
     
  5. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well lets analyse that for a minute

    A) Is Manny Pacquiao ATG top 20 - For most classic fans - ie - Older than 40 - that's a resounding no so far, and if so, just into the top 20. Not really a bitterness or a hate issue there.

    B) Ranking Mayweather over Pac ATG - I think that's the weakest of the three arguments, but it's not like Floyd did NOTHING, Manny overall I personally would place higher, everyone's list is subjective so whatever.

    C) I also think Leonard would stop Pacquiao at welterweight. That's not really a rub when Ray is a top ATG Welterweight.

    I think Teddy is more just not a fan of ANY modern fighter being ranked over a sport with over a centuries worth of history. He was a Cus D'matto product and look at the respect and love for boxing history he instilled into Mike Tyson - it makes sense that Teddy is protective of the legacies of the old timers.
     
  6. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Criticism and hate are two different things. When you're at the top, you need to be able to deal with a measure of both critique and praise.
     
  7. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Atlas is a good commentator and very knowledgable of the sweet science

    whatever happened to that ****** Fortune guy?
     
  8. USboxer1981

    USboxer1981 The Real Def. MVP Full Member

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    yea but then Atlas would hate every fighter :think

    Every boxer proves his predictions to be wrong.
     
  9. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    Unless I'm deaf, I don't hear any praise from Atlas on Pac. That's when constant critique is questioned and sometimes mistaken for hatred.
     
  10. itliangladiator

    itliangladiator Active Member Full Member

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    Think he has his own gym somewhere in southern California. From what I have gathered he is great with physical condition but not very knowledgeable on the technical aspects of the sport. And Pac probably makes the top 20 of all-time but not much higher. People who say he is a top 10 all time great are delirious and forget all of the great fighters...who fought the the best during their time (not that Pac doesn't want to...it's just the way the sport is now-a-days...unfortunately).
     
  11. H .

    H . Boxing Junkie banned

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    yet, an article on yahoo says Atlas' comments are justified.

    were they denied the opportunity to train pac as well?
     
  12. ballznall

    ballznall Active Member Full Member

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    ..........atlas ,same guy that has predicted a wlad loss in 10 of his last 11 fights ! He is a joke!!!Al Bernstein has more class in the tip of his knob than Teddy Atlas could ever hope for .
     
  13. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look where?
     
  14. Nosbor

    Nosbor Boxing Addict banned

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    Good thing Teddy is not the type of guy who holds a grudge, OH WAIT...
     
  15. PATSYS

    PATSYS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Did the article on yahooconstantly criticizes Pacquiao fight after fight as well?