The Reason why the Heavyweight Division is considered weak

The division is very weak. The US doesn't have a great heavyweight and neither does any other country. That's why the division is weak.

 

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The heavyweight division is weak because the vast majority of the fighters are bloody awful - not to mention boring to watch and in possession of as much charisma as a paper plate.

Nothing to do with whether a guy is white, black or bright pink.

 

:good It may come to life with haye entering the fray.

 

Not for long I don't think - because other than Klitschko the fighters are shite.

Time to drop cruiser from 200 to 190 (or better still get rid altogether) and force some of the bigger cruisers to campaign at heavy.

You don't have to be big (230+) to be successful. Recent examples include:

Roy Jones
Herbie Hide
Evander Holyfield
Chris Byrd

Going a bit further back guys like Mike Tyson, Muhammad Ali (remember him?), Rocky Marciano and to a lesser degree, Henry Cooper.

 

wlad and vitali are very impressive once they get started, haye could be good, if chageav was fit all the time he'd b very good

 

Not true.

Many of the US heavies have been KTFO - but if other countries produced skilled, charismatic, exciting heavyweights I do believe that they would take an interest.

Guys like Valuev, Chagaev, Ibragimov and to a lesser extent both Klitschko's have absolutely no charisma or excitement, whilst the brothers do have skills.

You don't miss a night out to stay and watch Valuev vs Chagaev, yet you would to watch Cotto vs Margarito - regardless of what country they are from.

Not sure what the race situation is like in America - but in the UK we (and our media) don't particularly care whether a guy is black or white. If they are good, we support them. Most people were wanting David Haye to beat Maccarinelli - in the main because we all knew that Enzo was a ****ing fraud and Haye was the real deal.

Likewise esteemed sportsmen/women such as Jason Robinson, Kelly Holmes and Colin Jackson have all been very popular despite being black - whilst the likes of Frank Lampard, Danny Cipriani and others aren't - even though they are white.

The whole race thing is grossly overhyped. If a guy is good, he will get kudos, if a guy is crap, he will get stick :deal

 

heavyweight is garbage

theres not even a heavyweight thats p4p top 10

 

The lack of excitement is the key, the best guys are either injuring himself
before mayor fight (Vitaly, Maskaev, Chagaev), reshedule fights for no
reason (Gomez, Virchis), put boring performance (Wlad vs Ibragimov, Ruiz),
are not as good as expected (Peter) or get stripped anyway (Toney) ...
so more disappointment than the excitement.

Division is STRONG I think, but it needs a lot more movement from the
bottom to the top. Its good that the guys like Thompson, Povetkin are
getting his chances and try to write own history. The other like Haye,
Arreola, Virchis, Gomez, Dimitrenko should be next in the line.

The interesting event was the 4 man tournament (Byrd, Povetkin, Brook, Chambers)
2 older fighters agianst 2 upcomers ...
this should be continued every year to chose mandatory for every belt.

 

POUND-FOR-POUND
This
week Last
Week Weeks
in
Ratings Fighter Weight Class
1 1 240 MANNY PACQUIAO Lightweight/
Jr. Lightweight
2 2 123 JOE CALZAGHE Super Middle/
Lt. Heavyweight
3 3 69 JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ Jr. Lightweight
4 4 109 BERNARD HOPKINS Lt. Heavyweight
5 5 49 ISRAEL VAZQUEZ Jr. Featherweight
6 6 57 MIGUEL COTTO Welterweight
7 7 18 KELLY PAVLIK Middleweight
8 8 8 CRISTIAN MIJARES Jr. Bantamweight
9 9 7 RAFAEL MARQUEZ Jr. Featherweight
10 10 5 IVAN CALDERON Jr. Flyweight




top 10 p4p acording to ring mag..

NO HEAVYWEIGHTS

**** is garbage...

 

The range of competition at heavy is stronger, but the standard is sadly lacking.

If you cannot see this you need to go and watch some boxing.

 

I wouldn't have a heavy in the top 20, never mind top 10.

Even if there is an outstanding heavyweight emerging (eg Haye - possibly) there isn't sufficient level of competition to be able to reach the top 10.

 

my whole point exactly

nobody likes or cares about any heavyweights or the heavyweight division as a whole

haye is the savior of the division but if someone knocks him out anytime soon the division will continue to be awful for the next 5-10 years

overall the most of the heavyweights are boring to watch or completely sloppy
they have no excitement to their fighting styles

theres really nothign positive about the hw division

 

It is like once per decade that any HW is in the top 10 p4p. Just wait until the ring/lineal champion will be announced.